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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 3:44:35 GMT
(response to @creeperseth @ totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64545/stop-preemptively-closing-threads) I do see myself as an individual with a below-average IQ score, but that has nothing to do with what I was conveying in my original thread, which you locked, ironically enough. Your ending statement to the thread totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64544/why-ownership-policy-deleted?page=2 was: “Then I, Seth Kelly, if in any event i am rendered incapable of performing my minecraft server ownering dutities, Hereby pass ownership to Robin. end of story. not gonna argue for hours on end. and he has all my acc info, so it only makes sense. The only reason why, we did voting with windows, was because he physically wasn't there to pass it to someone, therefore the community decided it.” Which is not in relation to what the OP was saying, because @wilee was asking for an explanation as to why the thread got deleted (not closed) and not a response in the form of "we just don't need it" or "it won't be executed" – which you did exactly. You didn’t answer his OP and you didn’t let Hockey and Mibbzz didn’t get any input, even though that was also what the OP was asking – sorry for condemning censorship, but there’s a good reason why we’re bringing these issues up because until-now you (and the previous owners) let the server act as a democracy, so we’re simply pointing out the hypocrisy. Also, I am not a grown man, but I do fancy asses, preferably young. You say that you and many others are tired of these “useless” threads that cause nothing more than “pointless arguments” – I guess we’re just making useless threads with pointless arguments because we think it’s funny and because we like condemning every action you take as owner, and calling abuse whenever you stroke your dick? Also, what happened to actually enforcing the forum rules in regards to thread-hijacking, powerposting and the such? I think it’s quite a hilarious thing that you quickly lock my thread after I was putting the question forth as to why you were preemptively locking these threads. Why not follow TF-tradition (as was the case until very recently), and make a poll on the matter – remove the ownership policy, and leave the threads open for more than 24 hours so people can actually form an opinion on the matter and contribute to the conversation? Or nah… Let’s not, because you and many others are tired of our useless threads that cause nothing more than pointless arguments. (I couldn't see any rules @https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/8134 that I am breaking by posting this thread)
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jul 21, 2019 3:53:49 GMT
I'm just going to use this as an opportunity to respond to "It seems between you and Wiley it's a never ending shit storm of threads arguing alleged abuse and what not.", because it's a misunderstanding of what my position is. I have literally never accused Seth of abuse, I have only criticized certain actions.
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Post by Fleek on Jul 21, 2019 4:12:24 GMT
If you don’t like how Seth runs things then just leave. No one is forcing you to stay.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 4:19:11 GMT
If you don’t like how Seth runs things then just leave. No one is forcing you to stay. “In Total Freedom, if you hate our Server, you are free to leave. The simple fact of the matter is, the two Congressmen think that Total Freedom is wicked in its origins, they think that Total Freedom is even more wicked now, that we are all racist and evil." -Our lord and saviour, Tronald Drump
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 4:34:55 GMT
I'm just going to use this as an opportunity to respond to "It seems between you and Wiley it's a never ending shit storm of threads arguing alleged abuse and what not.", because it's a misunderstanding of what my position is. I have literally never accused Seth of abuse, I have only criticized certain actions. Well I'm sorry but it really seems like you are.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 4:38:43 GMT
I'm just going to use this as an opportunity to respond to "It seems between you and Wiley it's a never ending shit storm of threads arguing alleged abuse and what not.", because it's a misunderstanding of what my position is. I have literally never accused Seth of abuse, I have only criticized certain actions. Well I'm sorry but it really seems like you are. In my case I merely want consistency. I really like the direction that you steered TF in, when it comes to leadership and public-polling, but when you do a complete 180, and deem yourself the sole authority (which you are in the end) on server policies without having consulted the Admin team or the community, is not what I would describe as a consistent pathway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 5:01:06 GMT
"i posted after the thread was locked galaxy brain- it wasnt me who locked it" - ZaidA little reading comprehension goes a long way: "the closing statement by Zaid was more or less an invitation for further conversation on the matter" I never said it was you who locked the thread, fuko
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jul 21, 2019 5:01:12 GMT
I'm just going to use this as an opportunity to respond to "It seems between you and Wiley it's a never ending shit storm of threads arguing alleged abuse and what not.", because it's a misunderstanding of what my position is. I have literally never accused Seth of abuse, I have only criticized certain actions. Well I'm sorry but it really seems like you are. My dude, I'm not Panther. If you remember months ago I was literally the main person advocating for you to become the owner even at the expense of the ownership policy which at the time I wanted to be delayed until after the owner was picked because I wanted more work to be put into it (see for yourself: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/63097/global-poll-seth-new-owner, totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/63145/executives). I think you just need to take criticism better, when somebody criticizes an action that you perform you don't need to take it personally as if they're trying to depose you. I don't know if you're getting scared of the ownership policy or what, but nobody is trying to take you down. We simply want to have the system in place for if/when it is needed, and we want to change things for the better.
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Post by Zaid on Jul 21, 2019 5:04:22 GMT
"i posted after the thread was locked galaxy brain- it wasnt me who locked it" - Zaid A little reading comprehension goes a long way: "the closing statement by Zaid was more or less an invitation for further conversation on the matter" I never said it was you who locked the thread, fuko it seems that I have become the galaxy brain...... might need to take an iq test ??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 5:05:35 GMT
"i posted after the thread was locked galaxy brain- it wasnt me who locked it" - Zaid A little reading comprehension goes a long way: "the closing statement by Zaid was more or less an invitation for further conversation on the matter" I never said it was you who locked the thread, fuko it seems that I have become the galaxy brain...... might need to take an iq test ?? Don't worry - I would still get down on all four 4 u bby
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Post by Zaid on Jul 21, 2019 5:07:55 GMT
it seems that I have become the galaxy brain...... might need to take an iq test ?? Don't worry - I would still get down on all four 4 u bby didn’t like this - im gonna infamas you
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 5:20:39 GMT
My dude, I'm not Panther. If you remember months ago I was literally the main person advocating for you to become the owner even at the expense of the ownership policy which at the time I wanted to be delayed until after the owner was picked because I wanted more work to be put into it (see for yourself: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/63097/global-poll-seth-new-owner, totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/63145/executives). I think you just need to take criticism better, when somebody criticizes an action that you perform you don't need to take it personally as if they're trying to depose you. I don't know if you're getting scared of the ownership policy or what, but nobody is trying to take you down. We simply want to have the system in place for if/when it is needed, and we want to change things for the better. Know what, fine. You're right, if you would of said that first I guess I would of gotten at what you trying to say to me. I guess I made a shit show. But my points in here still stand with the forums. I'll put the ownership policy back, but with logistics and the definition of an owner if I'm present and responsive I literally can just say no to removing me with it. I'm also under the stress of moving, getting a real job, etc. It's just I hate giant ass threads that go on forever.
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Post by Video on Jul 21, 2019 5:29:55 GMT
Sorry to divert this topic for a second, but I wanted to get this off my chest. The seemingly hostile environment this thread and that thread have provided concerns me. With the constant arguing, I feel like the environment isn't welcoming to current players and new players alike. Mr. Rogers knows you can be better than this. Please don't disappoint him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 5:31:29 GMT
Sorry to divert this topic for a second, but I wanted to get this off my chest. The seemingly hostile environment this thread and that thread have provided concerns me. With the constant arguing, I feel like the environment isn't welcoming to current players and new players alike. Mr. Rogers knows you can be better than this. Please don't disappoint him. I really dont' get how you find the enviroment hostile? Political, yes, but hostile? There have been very little name-calling and personal attacks, and the threads have stayed mostly on topic. Just because we discuss opposing viewpoints does not automatically = DRAMA!! If anything, could you provide any examples of this "hostile" enviroment? If you feel it helps, then you can always just move the threads to Admin Spam and Drama, but I still don't get why that would be nessecary, considering we were having civil discourse.
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Post by Video on Jul 21, 2019 5:37:24 GMT
Sorry to divert this topic for a second, but I wanted to get this off my chest. The seemingly hostile environment this thread and that thread have provided concerns me. With the constant arguing, I feel like the environment isn't welcoming to current players and new players alike. Mr. Rogers knows you can be better than this. Please don't disappoint him. I really dont' get how you find the enviroment hostile? Political, yes, but hostile? There have been very little name-calling and personal attacks, and the threads have stayed mostly on topic. Just because we discuss opposing viewpoints does not automatically = DRAMA!! If you feel it helps, then you can always just move the threads to Admin Spam and Drama, but I still don't get why that would be nessecary, considering we were having civil discourse. Everyone's always arguing, and it's always the same people. It's repetitive and an utter shit show most of the time, if I'll be honest. I know it doesn't make much sense, but it's just how I feel.
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