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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2019 16:00:20 GMT
Ironically enough my post on Polaris Seltzeris's thread was not responded to and the thread was instead locked: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64692/suggestions-closed-resolved so now I am posting it here instead of making an entirely new thread. "Since you’re not responding to my PMs on the forums I am going to do it this way instead ?Robin My point in my thread here (https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64545/stop-preemptively-closing-threads)%C2%A0) still stands. Several of my threads have been closed too early and I want them to be reopened for further discussion. Firstly, the thread totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64728/moving-player-plots-plotworld, is about moving player plots in the plotworld. Even though the majority of the polled players voted against it, I still think it’s way too soon to close a thread after -4 hours- of being up. A thread can easily shift it’s popularity in the span of 24 hours. And even if it had been up for 10 days: if the conversation was still going strong, then there is no reason to end it. Now that you have closed the thread, you have made it so that no good additions can be made to my proposal, I can’t get feedback as to why people dislike the idea – It’s kinda pointless to ask the community “people are objecting, why” if you’re just going to close my thread preemptively. Another thread: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64703/intergrate-discord-on-totalfreedom was a proposal on integrating the Discord subchannels into the server. E.g. this could be the master builder lounge would be a separate channel on the server, meaning we effectively get a new Admin Chat (just MB-chat instead). This goes off the consensus in my other thread asking for an MB Chat to be implemented (see: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64481/add-master-builder-chat-poll) where people were instead vouching for the idea of allowing different channels on the server, if everybody had access to the option. But my new poll was again unpopular (as seen with my moving plots thread). This thread was locked 2 days after being made, but the conversation was still going as I had just responded to one of michaels comments, but that conversation was again cut short, because robin locked the thread by giving the reasoning: “none of us devs are going to implement this anytime soon, i'd find it quite pointless to have several channels like that and it'd be complex to even implement this” – which should not be considered a valid reasoning behind not implementing a suggestion. If my suggestion was to have a 90% approval rating and a developer closed the thread saying “we won’t implement it”, then I don’t think the community would be too happy. Lastly, I will just copy-paste my response to Seth on Wilee’s thread (https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64692/suggestions-closed-resolved) because nothing has been done. @creeperseth closed my thread totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64494/delete-inactive-plots-world-suggestion?page=2 with a 100% approval rating, but failed to actually implement any changes and instead just closing the thread with the wording: “If lets say an admin chooses to, they can swap plots to move builds closer to the spawn. As Lemon said someone could just place a block or break one to mark it as not empty.”, which has nothing to do with what was proposed in the thread. If we’re going to treat ourselves as a functioning democracy, then don’t cut corners. My response to Seth in Wilee’s thread is here: “I disagree with some of your ending points on some of my suggestions, so instead of creating an entire new thread for each I will just post my response here. totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64494/delete-inactive-plots-world-suggestion?page=2 Seth: "If lets say an admin chooses to, they can swap plots to move builds closer to the spawn. As Lemon said someone could just place a block or break one to mark it as not empty." This has nothing to do with what I was suggesting in the OP. The thread had an approval ratio of 16:0 voting yes (100% approval), so I would think it's quite important that we actually implement something with such a high approval. To summarize my position: I want every plot in the plotworld that hasn't been touched since being claimed to be automatically unclaimed after a certain time interval (say 30 min). This is to prevent people from hogging plots without even using them. If you want a plot, you claim the plot, and then you -immediately- build on it. If you're not going to use it, then you don't need it. The entire point in my suggestion was to make this an automatic thing, so we don't have to manually do this. And in the case that someone were to place a single block on the plot and not use it after this point, then we can manually remove the plot. “ totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64554/discord-channels-integrated-freedom-server See my response thread here: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64703/integrate-discord-on-total-freedom” Do I sound like a little bitch? Yes, but I don’t really give a shit."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 21:35:27 GMT
Ironically enough my post on Polaris Seltzeris 's thread was not responded to and the thread was instead locked: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64692/suggestions-closed-resolved so now I am posting it here instead of making an entirely new thread. "Since you’re not responding to my PMs on the forums I am going to do it this way instead ?Robin My point in my thread here (https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64545/stop-preemptively-closing-threads)%C2%A0) still stands. Several of my threads have been closed too early and I want them to be reopened for further discussion. Firstly, the thread totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64728/moving-player-plots-plotworld, is about moving player plots in the plotworld. Even though the majority of the polled players voted against it, I still think it’s way too soon to close a thread after -4 hours- of being up. A thread can easily shift it’s popularity in the span of 24 hours. And even if it had been up for 10 days: if the conversation was still going strong, then there is no reason to end it. Now that you have closed the thread, you have made it so that no good additions can be made to my proposal, I can’t get feedback as to why people dislike the idea – It’s kinda pointless to ask the community “people are objecting, why” if you’re just going to close my thread preemptively. Another thread: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64703/intergrate-discord-on-totalfreedom was a proposal on integrating the Discord subchannels into the server. E.g. this could be the master builder lounge would be a separate channel on the server, meaning we effectively get a new Admin Chat (just MB-chat instead). This goes off the consensus in my other thread asking for an MB Chat to be implemented (see: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64481/add-master-builder-chat-poll) where people were instead vouching for the idea of allowing different channels on the server, if everybody had access to the option. But my new poll was again unpopular (as seen with my moving plots thread). This thread was locked 2 days after being made, but the conversation was still going as I had just responded to one of michaels comments, but that conversation was again cut short, because robin locked the thread by giving the reasoning: “none of us devs are going to implement this anytime soon, i'd find it quite pointless to have several channels like that and it'd be complex to even implement this” – which should not be considered a valid reasoning behind not implementing a suggestion. If my suggestion was to have a 90% approval rating and a developer closed the thread saying “we won’t implement it”, then I don’t think the community would be too happy. Lastly, I will just copy-paste my response to Seth on Wilee’s thread (https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64692/suggestions-closed-resolved) because nothing has been done. @creeperseth closed my thread totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64494/delete-inactive-plots-world-suggestion?page=2 with a 100% approval rating, but failed to actually implement any changes and instead just closing the thread with the wording: “If lets say an admin chooses to, they can swap plots to move builds closer to the spawn. As Lemon said someone could just place a block or break one to mark it as not empty.”, which has nothing to do with what was proposed in the thread. If we’re going to treat ourselves as a functioning democracy, then don’t cut corners. My response to Seth in Wilee’s thread is here: “I disagree with some of your ending points on some of my suggestions, so instead of creating an entire new thread for each I will just post my response here. totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64494/delete-inactive-plots-world-suggestion?page=2 Seth: "If lets say an admin chooses to, they can swap plots to move builds closer to the spawn. As Lemon said someone could just place a block or break one to mark it as not empty." This has nothing to do with what I was suggesting in the OP. The thread had an approval ratio of 16:0 voting yes (100% approval), so I would think it's quite important that we actually implement something with such a high approval. To summarize my position: I want every plot in the plotworld that hasn't been touched since being claimed to be automatically unclaimed after a certain time interval (say 30 min). This is to prevent people from hogging plots without even using them. If you want a plot, you claim the plot, and then you -immediately- build on it. If you're not going to use it, then you don't need it. The entire point in my suggestion was to make this an automatic thing, so we don't have to manually do this. And in the case that someone were to place a single block on the plot and not use it after this point, then we can manually remove the plot. “ totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64554/discord-channels-integrated-freedom-server See my response thread here: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/64703/integrate-discord-on-total-freedom” Do I sound like a little bitch? Yes, but I don’t really give a shit." Still awaiting a proper response @creeperseth & ?Robin
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 21:59:01 GMT
Ironically enough my post on Polaris Seltzeris 's thread was not responded to and the thread was instead locked... redacted @creeperseth Still awaiting a proper response @creeperseth & ?Robin lol I'm not gonna sit here and read that wall of utter shit
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 22:12:34 GMT
lol he literally just deleted his forum account because I said I wasnt gonna read 20 paragraphs.
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Post by je isnt hapi on Aug 14, 2019 8:28:18 GMT
Still awaiting a proper response @creeperseth & ?Robin lol I'm not gonna sit here and read that wall of utter shit what do u think ur job as owner is lmao
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Post by JagWire on Aug 14, 2019 11:52:51 GMT
lol he literally just deleted his forum account because I said I wasnt gonna read 20 paragraphs. take notes students Well if you're gonna be pedantic about it you could say he deleted his forum account because of 100 other different circumstances. Clearly it wasn't because you said "I wasn't gonna read 20 paragraphs". But surely as your job as owner,instead of just brushing if off you could have at least paraphrased it or something, that just really shows your image in public. "Oh i'm not gonna read all that because it's too long" sure it may not have been something you wanted to read but it's much less ridiculous to actually partially read it, than to publically shame it. Sure he's been banned now but you're portraying your own image as owner as not bothering to listen to feedback or criticism.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 18:04:55 GMT
lol he literally just deleted his forum account because I said I wasnt gonna read 20 paragraphs. take notes students Well if you're gonna be pedantic about it you could say he deleted his forum account because of 100 other different circumstances. Clearly it wasn't because you said "I wasn't gonna read 20 paragraphs". But surely as your job as owner,instead of just brushing if off you could have at least paraphrased it or something, that just really shows your image in public. "Oh i'm not gonna read all that because it's too long" sure it may not have been something you wanted to read but it's much less ridiculous to actually partially read it, than to publically shame it. Sure he's been banned now but you're portraying your own image as owner as not bothering to listen to feedback or criticism. I really didn't want to have to write this. I listen to suggestions (and that's evident if you look at the suggestion boards) but when you expect me to read a 5-10 paragraph essay where each paragraph is like 10-20 sentences that's where I'm going to stop right there. And, I have people critising me every day because I'm just a scapegoat to them. If Mark were to do any of this in like 2010-2014 I can almost guarantee that no one would care. It's because of the fact that I don't suspend everyone who says fuck you to me or tells me to delete the server that they get the idea that I'm a shit owner. Does everyone fucking forget that you couldn't post anything he thought was drama way back then? Not trying to shit on him but it was the truth. Do you want to know why people like school teachers can be fucking strict pricks? It's because their students took for granted their kindness and the lack of strict "nazi" rules. They realized that being nice gets them no where, and the only way for them to get control is write them up or send them to ISS. In the end no matter how hard I try I can't please everyone. And I can see why Mark and Windows started to ignore threads because no matter how hard they tried people would still shit on them. Even with this statement I bet at least 20 people are going to read this wrong and shit on me even more. People want Mark back but they forget they're the ones who pushed him away, and Windows didn't say anything about being broke because he already knew a out the shit fest, and I'll be honest here back then I'd shit on him too. And I did. But the moment you step into their shoes is when you get a completely different perspective. Don't get any ideas that I'm gonna leave, that's not happening. But just remember that I'm a human, like everyone else. No one is perfect. I say I hate reading paragraphs but here I just wrote one, what a hypocrite. Also, I really wasn't going to say anything about Miwo, until he griefed the master builder world. And lastly, I'm not supporting the actions Mark and Windows have done, I just understand a little more why they did what they did.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Aug 14, 2019 19:24:11 GMT
Well if you're gonna be pedantic about it you could say he deleted his forum account because of 100 other different circumstances. Clearly it wasn't because you said "I wasn't gonna read 20 paragraphs". But surely as your job as owner,instead of just brushing if off you could have at least paraphrased it or something, that just really shows your image in public. "Oh i'm not gonna read all that because it's too long" sure it may not have been something you wanted to read but it's much less ridiculous to actually partially read it, than to publically shame it. Sure he's been banned now but you're portraying your own image as owner as not bothering to listen to feedback or criticism. I really didn't want to have to write this. I listen to suggestions (and that's evident if you look at the suggestion boards) but when you expect me to read a 5-10 paragraph essay where each paragraph is like 10-20 sentences that's where I'm going to stop right there. And, I have people critising me every day because I'm just a scapegoat to them. If Mark were to do any of this in like 2010-2014 I can almost guarantee that no one would care. It's because of the fact that I don't suspend everyone who says fuck you to me or tells me to delete the server that they get the idea that I'm a shit owner. Does everyone fucking forget that you couldn't post anything he thought was drama way back then? Not trying to shit on him but it was the truth. Do you want to know why people like school teachers can be fucking strict pricks? It's because their students took for granted their kindness and the lack of strict "nazi" rules. They realized that being nice gets them no where, and the only way for them to get control is write them up or send them to ISS. In the end no matter how hard I try I can't please everyone. And I can see why Mark and Windows started to ignore threads because no matter how hard they tried people would still shit on them. Even with this statement I bet at least 20 people are going to read this wrong and shit on me even more. People want Mark back but they forget they're the ones who pushed him away, and Windows didn't say anything about being broke because he already knew a out the shit fest, and I'll be honest here back then I'd shit on him too. And I did. But the moment you step into their shoes is when you get a completely different perspective. Don't get any ideas that I'm gonna leave, that's not happening. But just remember that I'm a human, like everyone else. No one is perfect. I say I hate reading paragraphs but here I just wrote one, what a hypocrite. Also, I really wasn't going to say anything about Miwo, until he griefed the master builder world. And lastly, I'm not supporting the actions Mark and Windows have done, I just understand a little more why they did what they did. To be entirely fair here, I have only ever provided you with constructive criticism (and also a hell lot of support if you recall) and then I was banned (or at least kept banned by you) for being annoying. As for Miwo, I think he had good points except he kind of fucking threw that all out the door.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 21:24:07 GMT
To be entirely fair here, I have only ever provided you with constructive criticism (and also a hell lot of support if you recall) and then I was banned (or at least kept banned by you) for being annoying. As for Miwo, I think he had good points except he kind of fucking threw that all out the door. That was an act of immaturity on my end and I would like to publicly apologize to you on that.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Aug 14, 2019 21:31:41 GMT
To be entirely fair here, I have only ever provided you with constructive criticism (and also a hell lot of support if you recall) and then I was banned (or at least kept banned by you) for being annoying. As for Miwo, I think he had good points except he kind of fucking threw that all out the door. That was an act of immaturity on my end and I would like to publicly apologize to you on that. Forgiven.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 21:36:01 GMT
So, now that Miwo is perm banned, what are we going to do about this thread? It's been dormant for a while and I feel like conversations are a little irritating on this thread.
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Post by Taze on Aug 14, 2019 21:39:14 GMT
So, now that Miwo is perm banned Permbanned? Miwo deleted his account?
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Post by JagWire on Aug 14, 2019 21:41:06 GMT
So, now that Miwo is perm banned Permbanned? Miwo deleted his account? Well he went rogue by griefing the MBW so he has been suspended and permbanned.
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Post by Taze on Aug 14, 2019 21:42:25 GMT
Permbanned? Miwo deleted his account? Well he went rogue by griefing the MBW so he has been suspended and permbanned. Oh, that sounds smart griefing MBW because no one likes me.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki - DL108 on Aug 14, 2019 22:21:25 GMT
Permbanned? Miwo deleted his account? Well he went rogue by griefing the MBW so he has been suspended and permbanned. He always wanted to boss me around (as ECD) even when he wasn't the ECD a few times. I don't grief or go rogue on purpose.
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