Why was the ownership policy deleted?

Here's a backup I made of the thread 3 months prior.

Seth, I firmly believe that you are the reason Total Freedom still exists today. You've done a fantastic job maintaining server plugins and keeping in touch with the community. I mean that. That said, there's a reason that Finest and Mark still exist here. We removed an owner in the past, and we can do so again if need be. Saying that the ownership policy is not needed because you cannot be removed is inaccurate.

I don't see the policy needing to be used for the foreseeable future. But it's a backup plan. This community has come too far, and is too important to too many people, to crumble over a change in leadership. That is why the ownership policy is so important.

I don't want you to view this post as a threat to you. I'm trying to prove the point that while the policy might seem useless or silly, it serves an important purpose.

hmmm this post is gonna get "okretard"ed by all the smarts but i'd just like to say that we haven't had drama in a while and that this is very entertaining. very good!

And the worst part is that this drama is being continually dragged around by people who want to make light of situations that go against what they think, while claiming seriousness when they agree with the topic at hand.

not sure if that last part was directed at me or not but I just wanna make clear that I’m not on anyone’s side in this. Locking threads isn’t always the best way to deal with them and I haven’t personally locked any discussions since getting forum admin but I also agree that not everything has to be democratic and discussed on this server. It’s ultimately the owners call since we elected him and he’s made his position clear in the last thread 

We need to stop this recent trend of operating off of the "look at the other Minecraft servers" argument. Total Freedom is not a normal Minecraft server, it has never been one, and if you ever think it will be then not to dress this up but you are delusional. I also do not think for a second it should ever be a normal Minecraft server, and if it was I think it would be the end of Total Freedom. The simple fact that this is one of the longest reigning Minecraft servers in existence, and the fact that we are at our third owner says a lot. We have proven that even if the Owner was to fail, we can survive without massive infrastructure changes thanks to the fact that we have third parties with control over infrastructure, a form of redistribution of power. We have an executive system.

And the elephant in the room here is that the entire basis of this existing is that we give what is interpreted to everybody outside of the Total Freedom space an "admin" role. We may not think of OP as an admin role, we think of it as the peasants that we are free to be our own virtual gods over, but that's what literally everybody else thinks of it and that's why we're here having this discussion right now. This point alone puts to bed the whole "all of the other Minecraft servers would laugh at us if they saw this". Other Minecraft servers do not operate the way that we do whatsoever, and that's why we flourish with uniqueness & creativity.

Now that we're hopefully on the same page there, I'd like to address some other points. How can we remove the Owner and be successful with it? We did that already with Windows when he disappeared, the circumstances haven't changed too much other than the owner also has control over the discord which I would argue is still more of a fringe thing at least relative to the forum & server, but even the server was able to be replaced following Windows. Really the same thing goes now; if it ever came to that and the people backed it, the Owner could be removed. We have set this precedent, and I am not saying that it would happen with you, I'm saying that it is possible and why this ownership policy is important for us. "Seriously. How hard of a concept is it to grasp? It really saddens me" It honestly saddens me that you don't grasp the uniqueness of the community that you own.

"The server owner doesn't have to follow their own rules. Clearly they wouldn't have many players if they did this, and it was something I used to do in the past, but that was years ago."
I don't understand what this means. This implies you don't need to follow the rule of not being able to transfer ownership, but then say that you don't do that anymore, but this is right after you said you would transfer ownership to Robin. This strikes me as contradictory.

"I know, I can't say it enough, I know it's not gonna happen. I don't walk away, I hate it when people say when you get in fights to just walk away. Because what happens when you walk away? You get your fucken ass beat and you are remembered as a pussy. I don't walk away from my problems, I take them head on. Why did I lock the threads? I locked them because I got better things to do then argue on and off for hours. That's a resolution. If I were to walk away I could be like most people and just delete the thread and act like it never existed."

This makes even less sense to me. You drive down the point that you never walk away from problems & take them head on, but then explain that you locked the threads because you have better things to do than to take on those problems, but then you equate walking away to deleting the thread, but I would say that straight up locking or even just ignoring the thread would be the actual equivalent of walking away. Deleting the thread would just be obscuring the problem. I don't understand why you feel such a compulsive need to do this; would it kill to just allow discussion to continue? You have responsibilities, you are expected to do these things and I think you are walking away from them like you say you're against when you do this.

"I thank you for this, I acknowledge this isn't a threat, but I see a flaw here: If you think Finest scares me, I'm sorry it's not like that. He's done an amazing job at the forums, I appreciate him for finding proboards, and I hold nothing against him. But if you think the community is bound to the forums then you are mistaken. It takes much more than removing me from the forums to say I'm not the owner anymore. Let me be honest here, if that were to happen, I would literally go download some forum software and make it the new Total Freedom forums."

If you went rogue (again, I don't think this would happen) then it wouldn't matter if you made a new forums, given that everybody would obviously stay here and elect a new owner because I don't think that in such a scenario they would deliberately want a rogue person to run the server. I know it's controversial to say but the community is much more bound to the forums than the discord or server and that's the way it's been for years, and that's not to put down the discord or server. The forum acts as the end all, be all and it has since 2014 at the latest.

I'm sorry if you took it as me directing that at you, but i took your comment at face value. If you look at many of my past posts, I consistently point out that as owner, Seth can technically do whatever the fuck he wants. My goal is to remain neutral in almost every possible situation until it becomes either impractical or impossible to do so.


EDIT:  Also, I didn't want to just post that with no context because I was unsure of how many people would know what the hell i was talking about.