Darth
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Post by Darth on Jun 28, 2020 1:44:47 GMT
Miwo has been very inactive in regards to the Master Builders. He engages with the MB team very infrequently, and is quite inactive in-game (has just over a half hour of playtime in the last month, with 8 minutes of that being registered AFK time). I do not believe he has made sufficient contributions to the server to retain his executive status, and as such an posting a poll to gather community opinion.This poll was made with permission of the EAO.
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on Jun 28, 2020 1:52:31 GMT
i would also like to mention this users general inactivity with the mbs and the rest of the discord as well, we have an MB announcement channel which was made for the ecd to tell us about any projects or updates on anything. Nothing has been posted in there since F E B R U A R Yand while miwo has made a few comments about other things, they haven't done anything related to any ECD actions in quite a while. they also don't have their admin rank as their display group which is very concerning considering that this is the person who is supposed to be in charge of the MBS and other creative processes, and their only actual action as an ecd was this |
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zeseryu
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Post by zeseryu on Jun 28, 2020 1:55:17 GMT
I think this is just a reoccurring problem with the ECD role. A whole executive spot to manage master builders seems really weird. There's another poll posted to further outline what the ECD does but honestly I still don't see the point in keeping it an executive roll. What do master builders do besides build in their world? why do they need this world in the first place? what are they actually contributing to the server?
(also miwo was on pace to get removed July 1st)
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Post by zekurt on Jun 28, 2020 1:58:19 GMT
This has been quite the theme for a few years but the server keeps giving him the role anyways. After he ragequits from being removed this time, let it be finished.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jun 28, 2020 1:58:26 GMT
I personally voted no. Miwo has been actively managing master builder applications, if you think there is more that he should be doing then post a suggestion, because he's doing exactly what is in his scope of power. He is more qualified than anyone else here to be in the position and that is something I am damn sure of.
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on Jun 28, 2020 2:00:42 GMT
I personally voted no. Miwo has been actively managing master builder applications, if you think there is more that he should be doing then post a suggestion, because he's doing exactly what is in his scope of power. He is more qualified than anyone else here to be in the position and that is something I am damn sure of. but he hasn't he even purposfully delayed adding someone to the "mblist", which miwo hasnt even added anyone too, seth has had to do it almost every time |
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Post by zekurt on Jun 28, 2020 2:01:04 GMT
I personally voted no. Miwo has been actively managing master builder applications, if you think there is more that he should be doing then post a suggestion, because he's doing exactly what is in his scope of power. He is more qualified than anyone else here to be in the position and that is something I am damn sure of. If the role of ECD is to approve master builder applications and nothing else, then it should be removed. |
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jun 28, 2020 2:01:38 GMT
I personally voted no. Miwo has been actively managing master builder applications, if you think there is more that he should be doing then post a suggestion, because he's doing exactly what is in his scope of power. He is more qualified than anyone else here to be in the position and that is something I am damn sure of. If the role of ECD is to approve master builder applications and nothing else, then it should be removed. No, it should be expanded as there already is a suggestion for. |
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jun 28, 2020 2:03:33 GMT
I personally voted no. Miwo has been actively managing master builder applications, if you think there is more that he should be doing then post a suggestion, because he's doing exactly what is in his scope of power. He is more qualified than anyone else here to be in the position and that is something I am damn sure of. but he hasn't he even purposfully delayed adding someone to the "mblist", which miwo hasnt even added anyone too, seth has had to do it almost every time I believe there already was a thread in which he explained why that was the case. He's been around since 2010, created many of the most legendary and memorable maps for this server, and was pretty much the creation of the master builder/creative designer position back a decade ago. Certainly not a person with the level of experience we should be booting off the ship. |
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Post by zekurt on Jun 28, 2020 2:05:54 GMT
but he hasn't he even purposfully delayed adding someone to the "mblist", which miwo hasnt even added anyone too, seth has had to do it almost every time I believe there already was a thread in which he explained why that was the case. He's been around since 2010, created many of the most legendary and memorable maps for this server, and was pretty much the creation of the master builder/creative designer position back a decade ago. Certainly not a person with the level of experience we should be booting off the ship. A person who doesn't do anything should not have their position... Executives are now required by policy to post activity logs, which he has yet to do. Just because he's an old admin, and certainly qualified for the position, doesn't mean he should keep it since he's literally worthless as of this past year. it states in policy that the master builder is required to manage master builder projects, and he is not doing so. |
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on Jun 28, 2020 2:06:15 GMT
but he hasn't he even purposfully delayed adding someone to the "mblist", which miwo hasnt even added anyone too, seth has had to do it almost every time I believe there already was a thread in which he explained why that was the case. He's been around since 2010, created many of the most legendary and memorable maps for this server, and was pretty much the creation of the master builder/creative designer position back a decade ago. Certainly not a person with the level of experience we should be booting off the ship. he rage quitted 4 times, deleting his forum account and everything else, also old admins don't necessarily mean better. also there was not a thread according to many others he actualy ghosted the person, telling him that oh ill add you at [insert time here] and then never adding him, forceing seth to do it, this has happened multiple times |
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Post by fionn on Jun 28, 2020 2:07:51 GMT
but he hasn't he even purposfully delayed adding someone to the "mblist", which miwo hasnt even added anyone too, seth has had to do it almost every time I believe there already was a thread in which he explained why that was the case. He's been around since 2010, created many of the most legendary and memorable maps for this server, and was pretty much the creation of the master builder/creative designer position back a decade ago. Certainly not a person with the level of experience we should be booting off the ship. What notable things has he done as the ECD? He has done nothing. I like the dude but he's not active enough and albeit I made a suggestion to expand on what the ECD should do, we should have an active ECD that will actually do it |
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Post by zeseryu on Jun 28, 2020 2:10:25 GMT
but he hasn't he even purposfully delayed adding someone to the "mblist", which miwo hasnt even added anyone too, seth has had to do it almost every time I believe there already was a thread in which he explained why that was the case. He's been around since 2010, created many of the most legendary and memorable maps for this server, and was pretty much the creation of the master builder/creative designer position back a decade ago. Certainly not a person with the level of experience we should be booting off the ship. Executive Creator Designer - Manages and maintains the Master-builders. Handles their respective applications, master-builder policies, and in charge of any master-builder related project. Executive Admin Officer - Manages and maintains administrators. Handles their respective applications, administrative policies, and enforces the administrator conduct policy. Im going to compare miwo to myself for the sake of argument. Whats currently outlined is pretty simple. You can reduce it to "Admin Officer handles admins" and "ECD handles master builders." Miwo has done nothing to further advance or change the role of masterbuilders within the server. Nothing I have done under my executive role has been spectacular, but I am getting stuff done. Can Miwo list one thing he has accomplished? I think its pretty silly to say Miwo has no power to do anything, because he does. He could host building contests, MAKE MAPS?!?!, make spawns, do literally anything that would contribute to the server but hasn't. |
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Post by CoolJWB on Jun 28, 2020 2:13:29 GMT
but he hasn't he even purposfully delayed adding someone to the "mblist", which miwo hasnt even added anyone too, seth has had to do it almost every time I believe there already was a thread in which he explained why that was the case. He's been around since 2010, created many of the most legendary and memorable maps for this server, and was pretty much the creation of the master builder/creative designer position back a decade ago. Certainly not a person with the level of experience we should be booting off the ship. It is true that Miwo has experience, no doubt in that. However, as he does not use this experience and is mostly inactive, then there is no point to keep him in the position. We can not rely on people to handle situations ASAP when they can't even spend an hour (or less) of their day to overview the server or forums. |
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jun 28, 2020 2:23:52 GMT
If Miwo is under circumstances in which he temporarily cannot access the game in order to manage map creation, but is at least able to manage his forum-related activities, is that truly worthy of a vote off under temporary conditions? If I saw some evidence showing a long period of inactivity (a few months) then I'd be inclined to agree, but if he is temporarily unable to access the server, can that not be chalked up to a temporary inactivity? It would be an unprecedented burden to require somebody to work around circumstances in which they would be unable to access the server, especially given the history of support that Miwo has provided since 2010 related to his position, we should avoid losing somebody with this level of expertise and experience because we won't find somebody who shares it.
I'm not defending him not having to do his job, I'm saying that we should be charitable and assume good intent given his consistent handling of his forum-related duties, if he is just not able to access the game.
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