ginlang
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Post by ginlang on Apr 28, 2020 12:38:35 GMT
PLEASE GOD NO, YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW MUCH THE CRACKED SYSTEM WOULD BREAK STUFF AAAAAAAA sorry, heres the reason why online mode is currently (and most likely will continue being) still on: basicly, joker, the one and only, decided to abuse the verification system a lot, he would log on from other ops names and just do /playerverification enable, and then log off, and once he logged off, there was nothing we could do without modifying the playerdata files, meaning that the ops that he logged into would be locked out of their accounts preventing them from ever playing totalfreedom again, on top of this, having cracked players completely breaks UUID's meaning that we would have to essentialy rewrite the /shop system (im pretty sure), theres also a number of other reasons, such as an increase of greifers, bot attacks, easier to ban evade, ect,ect. smp had nothing to do with the server becoming premium only TL;DR: there are more cons then pros to this so object I agree, but couldn't this be sorted with the player requiring some sort of authentication to play? If it's just a password or discord verification, if they log on with another IP they will have to authenticate again. TL;DR: Make authentication required and add password auth to people who for some reason do not have discord. EDIT: "Oh but what about PlotSquared, Oh but what about the shop?" Solution #1 - If it's possible, make PlotSquared run on names, not UUID's, same with the shop. Solution #2 - Re'add UUID's into TFM
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fionn
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Post by fionn on Apr 28, 2020 12:51:33 GMT
If it's possible, make PlotSquared run on names, not UUID's, same with the shop. but if someone changes their name they lose all the data
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ginlang
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Post by ginlang on Apr 28, 2020 13:02:51 GMT
If it's possible, make PlotSquared run on names, not UUID's, same with the shop. but if someone changes their name they lose all the data True, I was gonna suggest having a thing where it would check new player's name history and if they had older names it would find them on plots/shop database and switch the names but I don't think that'd work.
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fionn
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Post by fionn on Apr 28, 2020 13:04:55 GMT
but if someone changes their name they lose all the data True, I was gonna suggest having a thing where it would check new player's name history and if they had older names it would find them on plots/shop database and switch the names but I don't think that'd work. I mean there is a API for name history that but it'd take up too much memory and cracked players wouldn't be able to change it due to there not being name history support for them
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Luke
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Post by Luke on Apr 28, 2020 13:57:51 GMT
Will lock the poll at 10pm BST or when it reaches 40 votes
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97
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Post by 97 on Apr 28, 2020 15:37:32 GMT
Since there are so many things to fix. Maybe we should first fix all of those issues first, and if that doesn't work then the server may have to be stuck online.
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Luke
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Post by Luke on Apr 28, 2020 16:06:30 GMT
Poll is closed. Looks like there is a clear majority @creeperseth
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Post by tozzit on Apr 28, 2020 16:40:53 GMT
Poll is closed. Looks like there is a clear majority @creeperseth Its not even been a day i didnt even see this thread why close the poll
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Luke
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Post by Luke on Apr 28, 2020 16:43:32 GMT
Poll is closed. Looks like there is a clear majority @creeperseth Its not even been a day i didnt even see this thread why close the poll how many more votes did you want? i thought 40 was a suitable threshold
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tozzit
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Post by tozzit on Apr 28, 2020 16:44:23 GMT
Its not even been a day i didnt even see this thread why close the poll how many more votes did you want? i thought 40 was a suitable threshold oh damn sorry i forgot you decided how many is a suitable threshold. go ahead.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 28, 2020 16:44:42 GMT
The good way is the players are frozen at the beginning and the server will notify you to enable your verification by using /linkdiscord and then join their server then dm the bot a verification code. Once they are done, they are now free to play the server. "Hello %player_name%, to avoid impersonation please follow those steps in the command: /verificationtutorial" "Here are the steps to enable verification: 1. Join our discord server by using this link: discord.gg/P844dJb2. Go ingame and type the command /linkdiscord and the server will notify you a verify code 3. DM the TotalFreedom Bot in the server next to Some Dragon bot the verification code. 4. Once you're done, you'll be unfrozen and you are free to play the server!" I don't think we should require our users to have a discord account, although even ones with may be put off by it. My suggestion could very easily be worked to be a requirement upon joining the server without having people need to jump through extra hoops, keeping things simple is important.
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Post by Telesphoreo on Apr 28, 2020 16:44:50 GMT
The good way is the players are frozen at the beginning and the server will notify you to enable your verification by using /linkdiscord and then join their server then dm the bot a verification code. Once they are done, they are now free to play the server. "Hello %player_name%, to avoid impersonation please follow those steps in the command: /verificationtutorial" "Here are the steps to enable verification: 1. Join our discord server by using this link: discord.gg/P844dJb2. Go ingame and type the command /linkdiscord and the server will notify you a verify code 3. DM the TotalFreedom Bot in the server next to Some Dragon bot the verification code. 4. Once you're done, you'll be unfrozen and you are free to play the server!" If I was a first time player and had to do this, I would just leave
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Luke
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Post by Luke on Apr 28, 2020 16:44:52 GMT
how many more votes did you want? i thought 40 was a suitable threshold oh damn sorry i forgot you decided how many is a suitable threshold. go ahead. apology accepted
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fleshy_
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Post by fleshy_ on Apr 28, 2020 17:21:46 GMT
Object: Basically, joker
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Post by ???TheHour on Apr 28, 2020 20:57:16 GMT
Your objection is based off of one user? Vouch, TotalFreedom was originally cracked and I don't see an issue with it continuing to be cracked. Are there not ways to fix the issues that are arising? If there are major issues go to online mode like we've been doing for the better part of at least 7 years. Maybe I'm missing something but keeping a server that was supposed to be cracked on premium seems to you know, defeat the purpose. This should have been a discussion in the first place, with all the users. And there should have been attempts to find a middle ground instead of totally cutting off cracked.
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