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Post by Waspter on Dec 2, 2018 23:50:09 GMT
Realistically I don't have a dog in this fight what so ever. I've been reinstated for such a short time, that i haven't really witnessed all the things being mentioned, HOWEVER I will say that in the time I've been around, things needing to happen have not happened at all. The master builders are still waiting for a mbw file switch, which was requested almost 3 weeks ago and nothing has happened. Ive seen suggestions ignored and ridiculous conflict between admins that have barely been addressed. I dont necessarily think the exec's should step down, they should just step up.EDIT: You know those fancy little quotes at the top of the forum pages? "Order without liberty and liberty without order are equally destructive." "You are free to do what you want but not from the consequences of your actions." "Without reflection, consequences are lost and meaning is void. With reflection, knowledge is gained and meaning is complete." Ironically it seems these quotes are being ignored. And you think this hasn't been addressed before? The problem is the Executives' way of doing things. If there was more communication between the Executives and the admins maybe something would happen, but at this point, it's really all just bullshit. This forum is filled with censorship when ironically, it's supposed to be "totalfreedom". And no, don't come at me with "oh but it's unnecessary and bad posts that are getting moderated!", because that's not what is happening. Unfortunately, from my perspective, this is an issue with inFAmas mostly. As it has been said before, he is not a bad person. It's just the way he does things which seems quite questionable, and the community has had enough. I think it's better to just do a vote-off for what Executives to remove because there are ones doing their job properly or at least acceptable.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki - DL108 on Dec 3, 2018 0:36:43 GMT
May I bring up some evidence related to the VJ incident? I was suspended, but had access to the Senior Admin boards for up to a month afterwards because people didn't know how to handle suspensions for some fucking reason. The entire mishandling of this incident was when my support for some of the executives went out the window, because most of them are inactive and abusive if they ARE active. You want to know why I still haven't reinstated? Because I would be annoyed that the second I make my reinstatement someone in the executive team, knowing the fuckup that they caused, would force other admins of lower rank to vote object on my reinstatement application. I would even be active and a helpful player were it not for the fact that even as an OP, I feel like every movement I do is watched, even when no admins are on whatsoever. I don't feel like I have any privacy. I feel like Total Freedom is North Korea or China every time I join as an OP. It only becomes America when you become Admin. I could even go so far as saying this whole thing started way back when OpWatch was a thing. I mean for fucks sake, OpWatch? The name gives it all away.
The point is, I have been inactive because I am scared that I would never get admin again, because "the past never goes away", as SOMEONE would bring it up, and it is usually a higher ranking admin who worked WITH me, or showed up AFTER I go away for some stupid reason. I know that I still have enough experience to train admins and manage the admin applications way more fairly than anyone I've ever seen manage the applications (apart from Mark as he did it well enough), and I haven't been regularly active since 2016! Why, you ask? Because I know how businesses work, how democracy works, and how strategies change, or are completely different, in similar communities. Ever since I first became Executive Creative Designer, I have wished to make the server more Democratic (holy shit we're going to the Moon again, this concept has totally not been done before!!111one), and have even made a few posts, remarks on the server, and even a couple of threads, but all fell under deaf ears at the time. During the brief period of time in which I was also a forum administrator, the same rank as Infamas, some of the threads I saw in there literally had zero posts, and yet were in the "Recycle bin"? What the absolute fuck.
The most important issue is that by making the forum admins have the most power, equal to the owner, chaos and corruption are bound to occur. It would make sense, then, for a democratic "Board of Directors", which would be elected by the popular vote, which would solve all of the issues. If they fuck up, another election to strip their power would be held. This would go the same for admin applications, perm ban appeals, etc., although it is kinda close to that now. This is the other reason, apart from staying on an edition of Minecraft which is inferior to the one everyone else is playing, that people don't show up on Total Freedom anymore.
TL;DR (Although I really hope you read the rant to understand the full story): Transform the equal power and picked by Elitist vote administration team into a form of "Board of Directors", picked by the people, for the people.
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Post by Violet on Dec 3, 2018 0:56:26 GMT
I feel like Total Freedom is North Korea or China every time I join as an OP. It only becomes America when you become Admin. i mostly agree - however i'd like to note that super admins don't really have that "america freedom" either. a super admin is honestly probably the worst position you could be in. no admin takes you seriously or respects you, and every op holds you to standards that don't logically exist. the roles of this server need to be redone.
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Post by Mikan Tsumiki - DL108 on Dec 3, 2018 1:06:18 GMT
I feel like Total Freedom is North Korea or China every time I join as an OP. It only becomes America when you become Admin. i mostly agree - however i'd like to note that super admins don't really have that "america freedom" either. a super admin is honestly probably the worst position you could be in. no admin takes you seriously or respects you, and every op holds you to standards that don't logically exist. the roles of this server need to be redone. I agree. To be honest all the server needs are two ranks, the Board of Directors, and Admins. No need for admins to increase voting power by being a higher tiered admin.
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Post by Violet on Dec 3, 2018 1:07:38 GMT
i mostly agree - however i'd like to note that super admins don't really have that "america freedom" either. a super admin is honestly probably the worst position you could be in. no admin takes you seriously or respects you, and every op holds you to standards that don't logically exist. the roles of this server need to be redone. I agree. To be honest all the server needs are two ranks, the Board of Directors, and Admins. No need for admins to increase voting power by being a higher tiered admin. especially when higher tier admins use that to try and claim they're superior
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Post by Alco RS11 on Dec 3, 2018 1:49:17 GMT
I agree. To be honest all the server needs are two ranks, the Board of Directors, and Admins. No need for admins to increase voting power by being a higher tiered admin. I agree with this statement, especially since corrupt Senior Admins will sometimes use their power to bail out buddies when they do wrongdoings or form circles that are used to shoot down potential candidates for higher ranks because they don't like that person. You can't physically remove bias, but merging ranks can prevent some of those frowned upon circles of admins that often prevent otherwise good candidates from advancing up the rank ladder. And for the board of directors role, it would be given to people who are trusted by the community (ops and admins alike) and I would think that their job is to handle what the executives do now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 1:52:26 GMT
i mostly agree - however i'd like to note that super admins don't really have that "america freedom" either. a super admin is honestly probably the worst position you could be in. no admin takes you seriously or respects you, and every op holds you to standards that don't logically exist. the roles of this server need to be redone. I agree. To be honest all the server needs are two ranks, the Board of Directors, and Admins. No need for admins to increase voting power by being a higher tiered admin. The ranking system has been an indirect cause of much of the bureaucratic mess that this server has become. Although I don't necessarily agree that the senior rank should be removed, I believe there should be incentives that reduce the power difference between the two ranks Senior and Super admin, and reduce incentive for being power hungry. I sort of mention these things in my suggestion... cough cough
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Post by Kash on Dec 3, 2018 5:25:28 GMT
It would’ve been nice as my time as an admin officer to close admin applications for an unknown amount of time, purge the inactive admins and ones that consistently abuse, you know.... stuff that would make the server better.
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Post by square on Dec 3, 2018 7:56:11 GMT
I’ve resigned 2 times and both times for the reason of not being removed for over 2 months of inactivity, and one inactivity notice still not being dealt with to this date. At this point I don’t care to pm an executive directly, since that would be a waste of my time.
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Post by Waspter on Dec 3, 2018 9:26:27 GMT
I’ve resigned 2 times and both times for the reason of not being removed for over 2 months of inactivity, and one inactivity notice still not being dealt with to this date. At this point I don’t care to pm an executive directly, since that would be a waste of my time. you can remove your rank on the server...
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Post by Lucas on Dec 3, 2018 14:00:39 GMT
i like how i reported two admins for misconduct and all i got from infamas is a big middle finger and an "ok reatard"
very cool
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Post by Kash on Dec 3, 2018 14:43:26 GMT
I also did leave my executive position for a few reasons. Aside from having more real life stuff to worry about, serrif is in fact correct at what I attested to. I felt like I was wasting my time being an admin officer, because any changes I could’ve possibly suggested to be made, would have not been implemented by my superior. I just knew that, so I figured why waste my time trying to make change when I know for a fact that the superiors just have too hard of a skull with stubbornness to make change? Change is good, especially when it’s necessary, and in this case. It is.
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Post by monkeh on Dec 3, 2018 14:53:47 GMT
#tfrevolution2018
i really fucking agree with this. it's about damn time we took some action to try and change the rules here. i've been begging for not only a change in the executive team, but a change in the admin team as well. it's about damn time.
EDIT: I'd like to add onto this as well. Along with a change in the executive team, as in removing the inactive ones that haven't even glanced at the forums in the past month, I'd like to finally implement the idea that we need to stop accepting everybody as an admin.
Not only is the server going down, but it's because of the shitty people we constantly recruit. I want to turn a new leaf, get rid of the abusive old, and keep what we have. Please, for the love of god, please stop letting people apply. Stop have year-round super admin applications when the team we have now is perfectly qualified.
There is no reason in the world to constantly bring in new people to the admin team when the one we have now is about 40-50% of our playerbase. Stop. At this point, it's not just free-op, it's almost guaranteed free admin if you behave well enough and are intelligent enough.
Please. I'm sick of bringing in idiotic, abusive and power-hungry newbies just because they're wanting the title admin. And I'm sick of seeing a new admin application every day, I'm sick of seeing our admin team grow to at least 50 players. There's no need for these many admins when we get a maximum of 30 players on a good day. Thanks for coming to my TEDTalk. hello, i haven't been on this forum or minecraft for about 30 years but i've been an admin here and on some other servers for some time, so i won’t talk about any exec abuse stuff because clearly i am not qualified. but, i want to support some of the points made here the elusive title of "admin" is destined to draw " idiotic, abusive and power-hungry newbies" to the server no matter what - and i know that FOP might not be the best example of this but at least it wasn't overridden with admins there with the application freezes being quite common. iirc TF had these freezes too but honestly they aren't truly a long term solution. i remember when i was starting out, i'd just wait the freeze period then apply, playing on the server pretty much just because i wanted admin. either you guys have to a. increase the prerequisites or b. just be less lenient ie. stop accepting every player who behaves normally as tabby has said. just my two cents as a past admin and good friend (it’s been long how have some of you been!!) of some who are still admin. EDIT: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/62686/admin-application-freeze
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Post by square on Dec 3, 2018 17:07:18 GMT
I’ve resigned 2 times and both times for the reason of not being removed for over 2 months of inactivity, and one inactivity notice still not being dealt with to this date. At this point I don’t care to pm an executive directly, since that would be a waste of my time. you can remove your rank on the server... That’s not the point. The point is that both times they haven’t and didn’t care about my inactivities both written and non-written. I also didn’t remove myself because I was less busy and I went on more. We need actual active execs.
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Post by Violet on Dec 3, 2018 23:20:09 GMT
i like how i reported two admins for misconduct and all i got from infamas is a big middle finger and an "ok reatard" very cool mood
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