Kash
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Post by Kash on Dec 19, 2017 1:48:10 GMT
Alright, so I'm gonna make sort of a "free write" thread. It's the type of thing where you guys all can get your REAL, PURE HONEST feelings about the server and how it is generally run. I feel like I have some stuff that needs to be said. Some of you might not like what is being said, and that's okay. It has to get out there though. Some things you might not wanna hear.
So let me say what I feel.
So with what I've been seeing, one of the big problems is that the people in higher up positions, especially certain executives, seem to me to be unwilling to make necessary changes that need to be made. It is said commonly that "change will not happen overnight." I understand that. However, it seems to me that when suggestions like that happen, they have been getting ignored and it's just like you threw it away because you don't want to do anything about it. What you might not have thought about is how certain suggestions that "cannot be made overnight" can be beneficial to the health of the server. Certain changes that have been suggested will NEED to be made at one time or another for the server to better its reputation. I hate to say it, but it's the cold hearted truth. You might think that "drama" might be caused by certain suggestions to be implemented, but what you haven't thought about is how they might actually be beneficial in the long run.
Another thing I noticed, is that a lot of times when something is said in a blatantly honest way, certain executives seem to take it as an instant spark of drama. As a result, certain threads I've seen have been commonly "locked due to drama." If we have to keep sugar coating a lot of the issues that have been brought up, nothing is gonna change. And the common issues that have raised, will only continue to worsen if nothing is done.
Dramatic changes are needed (Yes, I know the word DRAMA is part of DRAMAtic, but trust me not everything that is said is always meant to be drama.) And if you're too afraid or you're just unwilling to implement a lot of suggestions, well guess what? It's time to man up. Not everyone is gonna be happy with any changes, ever. Everyone is different. But think about this: It's time to think IN GENERAL what will be BENEFICIAL to the server.
Thank you. I'm looking forward to hearing what others need to say.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 1:53:36 GMT
There are too many people in a powerful position for changes to be made. Windows has let me down, unfortunately; and we're more keen on adding more plugins than fixing what's already present.
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Post by _Windows on Dec 19, 2017 1:59:44 GMT
There are too many people in a powerful position for changes to be made. Windows has let me down, unfortunately; and we're more keen on adding more plugins than fixing what's already present. In what ways? I can work on improving those. I am not afraid of criticism.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 2:08:14 GMT
From a dev point of view: being allowed to work autonomously to the current goal of overhauling the currently installed plugins, fixing issues with current ones, implementing suggestions and adding 'fun' plugins that will benefit the community.
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Post by Kash on Dec 19, 2017 2:10:47 GMT
From a dev point of view: being allowed to work autonomously to the current goal of overhauling the currently installed plugins, fixing issues with current ones, implementing suggestions and adding 'fun' plugins that will benefit the community. I understand that. Improvement in the development section of the server is one thing. But there's many more aspects that also need to be improved. A lot of examples have been brought up in previous threads.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 2:15:38 GMT
From a dev point of view: being allowed to work autonomously to the current goal of overhauling the currently installed plugins, fixing issues with current ones, implementing suggestions and adding 'fun' plugins that will benefit the community. I understand that. Improvement in the development section of the server is one thing. But there's many more aspects that also need to be improved. A lot of examples have been brought up in previous threads. Of course, I was just detailing one aspect
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 2:17:18 GMT
There are too many people in a powerful position for changes to be made. Windows has let me down, unfortunately; and we're more keen on adding more plugins than fixing what's already present. In what ways? I can work on improving those. I am not afraid of criticism. - TotalFreedomMod needs to be written. Currently it's [to be frank] an inconsistent mess, with spotty English and deprecated commands that shouldn't be available to administrators.
- With forty account breaches, we need a new forum software. This is an unpopular opinion but basically anything with optional two-factor authentication would prevent admin's accounts from being taken.
- Make permanent bans permanent, appealing a permban shouldn't be so easy. Ff you can get lifted from a one-week 'permban', calling it that makes no sense.
- A bit similar to the above one, but quit reinstating previously rogue or actively 'suspicious' administrators - a.k.a. quit giving admins second chances.
- The conduct policy and subsequent regulations should be compacted to one post. Operators [and admins alike] don't like hunting down policies.
- Our server has been noticeably shrinking, and to fit this player drain we need to get rid of the excess boards. There are just too many.
Here's some commands that we really don't need anymore: - /rollback [the old logging system is outdated and inferior to CoreProtect, and possible of breaking operator's builds. `/co i` should be used instead.]
- /mp, /killall, etc etc [all these extra killall commands. Doesn't `/entitywipe` do the same thing, and better?] We should unify these tools into one command, for everyone's convenience.
- /tban [it's so easy to confuse with `/tempban` and I'm sure that this can trick new administrators. `/tempban` does it better, but we should get rid of [at least] one of them.]
- /scoreboard [don't get rid of it, but don't let Supers use it either. I'm not sure if this has been done yet but I've seen countless 'custom' scoreboards and coloured name tags that we don't need.]
Here's some plugins that we really don't need anymore:
- LetterHeads. People were using this months ago but it was a trend, and that trend has passed.
- Itemizer / ItemFixer. These sound like they do the exact same thing, and even if they don't, we have a lot of these item-changing plugins.
- ViaVersion / ViaBackwards. We're a 1.12.2 server so this basically does nothing. For ViaBackwards, ProtocolSupport is better and doesn't require two of these 'Via' plugins. ViaVersion is [as previously stated] very unstable and shouldn't be used when it isn't necessary.
- TFMUtil. This is disabled, last time I checked. I don't know what 'TFMUtil' does but it [more than likely] can be integrated into TFM and shorten this massive list.
And Capatchafy doesn't really do anything. I saw a load of spambots bypass the plugin earlier, so unless it can be fixed, it's just a hassle for our real (human) players.
...and as I originally states, there's just too many people in a high position. Having an Executive for small jobs, and assistants to the managers of those small jobs, looks great for claiming that this server is a democracy - but isn't so good at making progress. Instead of employing several people to do a set of tasks, employ fewer people that can manage more than one task at a time.
Hopefully a few of these can be considered. Feel free to critique, but this is just what I could think of right now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 2:22:04 GMT
I agree with most key points you brought up here. Especially with this one sentence: You might think that "drama" might be caused by certain suggestions to be implemented, but what you haven't thought about is how they might actually be beneficial in the long run.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 2:54:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 3:03:01 GMT
I think the executive branch of this server can be compared to the incompetent senators of the late roman republic. They refused to acknowledge that the republic was dying, and as such refused to authorize any changes that could be considered extreme (whereas the executives of this server only want meaningless changes). By the time they finally acknowledged that there needed to be changes , it was too late. As the republic died, so does this server.
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Post by pj on Dec 19, 2017 3:09:05 GMT
On the topic of Capatchafy, I've got a patch on the way that should help. I'm also planning to release more features and debugging tools so that we can completely squash the issue. I'm sorry I've been so slow with this, I've just gotten extremely busy. Finals are this week, so I'll probably get a patch worked out over break. This is purely my fault, and I'm sorry for the inconvenience I've caused.
The biggest issue I see is giving out too many chances. I understand that many of us have been permbanned in the past, but there's only so many times you can trust a person again.
TFM should be re-hauled to implement Bukkit permissions. This would allow us to remove other plugin dependencies from TFM (and their bridges), speeding up the development process and making it more accessible to everyone. It needs a true Maven CI system.
If anything, I'm happy with the way that this server has been maintained. Some people give the forum admins a lot of crap, but the server has remained in very good standing for a long time. The transition of ownership was smooth, and I'm glad there haven't been any radical changes. I'm very optimistic about the future.
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Pocket edition is rapidly taking over, and Microsoft is heavily investing in it. There are many well supported solutions like PocketMine to aid us if we ever decided to explore this avenue. Expanding into a general gaming community or "clan" wouldn't be a bad idea, either, seeing as Minecraft is going to have to die out at some point.
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Post by neroblackcat on Dec 19, 2017 3:10:17 GMT
I'm proud to see Windows being a true owner and taking responsibility here. I haven't seen that in... I want to say years almost.
Also the server needs less of a bias when it comes to bans and such. I don't care if you suck the guy's dick for money, a ban is a ban.
There are too many SAs and when you keep adding more in more things get messy. More fights and such. It is also harder to train in that environment.
There shouldn't be more admins than ops on the serve.
If a certain admin needs to be watched over they deserve to know why first. But other than that I see it as fine.
One last thing like a couple people said... Executives need to work with each other and be able to reach agreements and negotiate. Not have one thing or the other.
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Post by GraceC3013 on Dec 19, 2017 3:12:01 GMT
Total Freedom is good server, I'll admit it. But I feel like some people have been taking the advantage of the server a little too far. Perhaps it would be best to tighten up the rules a little bit. And like said above, there is too many chances given out. I am new here, so I don't have a lot to say about it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 3:17:04 GMT
Ever since I was gone from Minecraft for a while and came back, Total Freedom was being the same server as I always knew. Since I was a CJFreedom Admin, the server was involved in multiple dramas and I see that Total Freedom has improved procedures and security.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 3:47:18 GMT
TotalFreedomMod needs to be written. Currently it's [to be frank] an inconsistent mess, with spotty English and deprecated commands that shouldn't be available to administrators. I'm actually working on a rewrite, but it will take a LOT of work, and I'm already hitting a lot of roadblocks. The only thing I have is the foundation for admins, which already needs to be rewritten. I personally think a TFM rewrite would be best of interest, with better support for third party plugins (perhaps structure it to work with PEX?) I'm working on something, but theres only so much I can do and I probably will need more devs on board edit: hockey summed it up also TFM should be re-hauled to implement Bukkit permissions. This would allow us to remove other plugin dependencies from TFM (and their bridges), speeding up the development process and making it more accessible to everyone. It needs a true Maven CI system.
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