Panther
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Post by Panther on Apr 2, 2019 23:50:52 GMT
what happened to the server? read Seth's custom title he thought it was a joke
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Post by minimitch on Apr 3, 2019 0:53:37 GMT
what happened to the server? read Seth's custom title he thought it was a joke is sad what came of a good server
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Post by smg515 on Apr 3, 2019 10:05:31 GMT
what happened to the server? read Seth's custom title he thought it was a joke careful your autism is showing.
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Panther
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Post by Panther on Apr 3, 2019 12:54:51 GMT
read Seth's custom title he thought it was a joke careful your autism is showing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 12:01:36 GMT
What is one to do if those who run the operation are part of the problem? Nothing because the majority of people elected those who run the operation. You didn't answer his question. If the people running a server, democratically elected or not, are ruining the server, then what is the server community supposed to do?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 12:03:53 GMT
Here's one example out of many: And old thread (not that old tho) named 'Make Total Freedom Great Again', which was mostly a thread against the way Mark ran the server, was locked/derailed/censored because Mark didn't like it. The vast vast majority of the server agreed with the thread. I highly doubt Mark did that, or you're vastly oversimplifying his actions. You say the thread was removed entirely?
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 6, 2019 17:55:08 GMT
Nothing because the majority of people elected those who run the operation. You didn't answer his question. If the people running a server, democratically elected or not, are ruining the server, then what is the server community supposed to do? Nothing? The question is illogical. The vast, vast majority of people elected Seth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 18:22:23 GMT
Here's one example out of many: And old thread (not that old tho) named 'Make Total Freedom Great Again', which was mostly a thread against the way Mark ran the server, was locked/derailed/censored because Mark didn't like it. The vast vast majority of the server agreed with the thread. I highly doubt Mark did that, or you're vastly oversimplifying his actions. You say the thread was removed entirely? Initially, the thread was censored of some posts that were very heavily against mark, or 'nasty drama'. Then soon after, the thread was locked. A few days after that even, the thread was either deleted or moved to the administrator lounge.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 18:23:04 GMT
You didn't answer his question. If the people running a server, democratically elected or not, are ruining the server, then what is the server community supposed to do? Nothing? The question is illogical. The vast, vast majority of people elected Seth. You're still evading the subject, and claiming the question as illogical is not helping either. "If the people running a server, democratically elected or not, are ruining the server, then what is the server community supposed to do?" - democratic election =/= good leader. That is not to say that Seth is a bad owner - I am merely rephrasing what Prozza meant (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 18:23:52 GMT
I highly doubt Mark did that, or you're vastly oversimplifying his actions. You say the thread was removed entirely? Initially, the thread was censored of some posts that were very heavily against mark, or 'nasty drama'. Then soon after, the thread was locked. A few days after that even, the thread was either deleted or moved to the administrator lounge. Just out of curiosity: what were some examples of the criticism against Mark?
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 6, 2019 18:29:08 GMT
Nothing? The question is illogical. The vast, vast majority of people elected Seth. You're still evading the subject, and claiming the question as illogical is not helping either. "If the people running a server, democratically elected or not, are ruining the server, then what is the server community supposed to do?" - democratic election =/= good leader. That is not to say that Seth is a bad owner - I am merely rephrasing what Prozza meant (correct me if I'm wrong) I didn't say a democratic election makes him an objectively good leader. I'm saying the question is illogical because why would the same 90% of the community that voted Seth in immediately want to fuck him up when that's clearly not the case at all?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 18:31:48 GMT
You're still evading the subject, and claiming the question as illogical is not helping either. "If the people running a server, democratically elected or not, are ruining the server, then what is the server community supposed to do?" - democratic election =/= good leader. That is not to say that Seth is a bad owner - I am merely rephrasing what Prozza meant (correct me if I'm wrong) I'm saying the question is illogical because why would the same 90% of the community that voted Seth in immediately want to fuck him up when that's clearly not the case at all? Because opinions change after an election...? You want me to list examples of this? And how can you deem that it's "clearly not the case at all", because I still continue to see threads and posts that berate the direction the server/ownership is going in.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 18:34:01 GMT
Initially, the thread was censored of some posts that were very heavily against mark, or 'nasty drama'. Then soon after, the thread was locked. A few days after that even, the thread was either deleted or moved to the administrator lounge. Just out of curiosity: what were some examples of the criticism against Mark? Here's a few from what I can remember. 1. People were mad about the fact that he would immediately censor any criticism of him (ironic) 2. People didn't like that he labeled any discussion about the state of the server as drama. 3. People were generally pissed that he was against makes any changes to the server (as the general consensus at the time was that changes needed to be made or the server would decline)
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 6, 2019 18:35:50 GMT
I'm saying the question is illogical because why would the same 90% of the community that voted Seth in immediately want to fuck him up when that's clearly not the case at all? Because opinions change after an election...? You want me to list examples of this? And how can you deem that it's "clearly not the case at all", because I still continue to see threads and posts that berate the direction the server/ownership is going in. So 90% of the community suddenly changed their opinion because you said so?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 18:40:52 GMT
Because opinions change after an election...? You want me to list examples of this? And how can you deem that it's "clearly not the case at all", because I still continue to see threads and posts that berate the direction the server/ownership is going in. So 90% of the community suddenly changed their opinion because you said so? So the 90% that you speak of haven't changed their opinion because you said so?
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