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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 2:53:21 GMT
Again this ridiculous argument has been brought up. This was a mistake. Seth forgot a step, and when notified of doing so, immediately reverted his changed. This was his first time ever promoting seniors as owner - cut him some slack. Such a simple mistake that he fixed. In from what I saw of this, it wasn't exactly handled professionally- it was handled as if it was a chore, although I do not have the original text that has been edited out at the moment apart from memory. Additionally, he initially just seemed to want to skip it entirely rather than immediately reverting his changes and only started the vote after multiple people told him to do so- Forgot about it, next time it'll happen. "not handled professionally" what else was I supposed to do to make it "professional" May I highlight this is a server and no one is perfect and I've never done a senior promotion and forgot one step? You're nit picking at this point.
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Post by Fluffasaurus_Rex on Mar 27, 2019 2:58:34 GMT
In from what I saw of this, it wasn't exactly handled professionally- it was handled as if it was a chore, although I do not have the original text that has been edited out at the moment apart from memory. Additionally, he initially just seemed to want to skip it entirely rather than immediately reverting his changes and only started the vote after multiple people told him to do so- "not handled professionally" what else was I supposed to do to make it "professional" May I highlight this is a server and no one is perfect and I've never done a senior promotion and forgot one step? You're nit picking at this point. I'm not the one saying you never handled this scenario as professionally as possible, but I think it was the very lax cadence you used that made people think you didn't care. The only part that matters is like I said in an earlier post, you re-held a vote and it ended up being the exact same results anyways.
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Post by beetlefights on Mar 27, 2019 2:59:27 GMT
In from what I saw of this, it wasn't exactly handled professionally- it was handled as if it was a chore, although I do not have the original text that has been edited out at the moment apart from memory. Additionally, he initially just seemed to want to skip it entirely rather than immediately reverting his changes and only started the vote after multiple people told him to do so- "not handled professionally" what else was I supposed to do to make it "professional" May I highlight this is a server and no one is perfect and I've never done a senior promotion and forgot one step? You're nit picking at this point. Perhaps my wording wasn't the best. The way it was done was simply not done in a way that... at the least I could describe as positive or necessary. The way you edited the post and wrote onto it while it was paused with a message was, at the least in my view, unnecessary to be how it was, especially in something like an actual announcement. I would entirely be wanting to quote this directly from the original post, however as mentioned I don't currently have any way to view it any further other than my memory of the post due to it being edited away.
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Post by Fluffasaurus_Rex on Mar 27, 2019 3:02:24 GMT
And the line right after that one said I hope you actually finished reading what I wrote before responding to it. Yes, I saw that. But you brought it up regardless, and it's beaten to death by this point. It's irrelevant. As long as it can be found with relative ease on this forum, it will almost always be relevant. The question was if something an owner did in the past could be seen as biased, and this could be seen as biased without seeing the resolution previously stated. All I was doing was answering the question and proving there was no bias by showing the respectable resolution to one of the top claims made by people saying there is an obvious bias.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 3:07:37 GMT
Perhaps my wording wasn't the best. The way it was done was simply not done in a way that... at the least I could describe as positive or necessary. The way you edited the post and wrote onto it while it was paused with a message was, at the least in my view, unnecessary to be how it was, especially in something like an actual announcement. I would entirely be wanting to quote this directly from the original post, however as mentioned I don't currently have any way to view it any further other than my memory of the post due to it being edited away. I'm not the one saying you never handled this scenario as professionally as possible, but I think it was the very lax cadence you used that made people think you didn't care. The only part that matters is like I said in an earlier post, you re-held a vote and it ended up being the exact same results anyways. I forgot what exactly I wrote, so I don't know what it said. I was annoyed I had to put it on hold, then make the thread, put whatever closing date I put on it, then re-announce it. Yes whatever I put probably should of been re-written, but if I really didn't care I never would of done it.
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Post by Fluffasaurus_Rex on Mar 27, 2019 3:12:38 GMT
Perhaps my wording wasn't the best. The way it was done was simply not done in a way that... at the least I could describe as positive or necessary. The way you edited the post and wrote onto it while it was paused with a message was, at the least in my view, unnecessary to be how it was, especially in something like an actual announcement. I would entirely be wanting to quote this directly from the original post, however as mentioned I don't currently have any way to view it any further other than my memory of the post due to it being edited away. I'm not the one saying you never handled this scenario as professionally as possible, but I think it was the very lax cadence you used that made people think you didn't care. The only part that matters is like I said in an earlier post, you re-held a vote and it ended up being the exact same results anyways. I forgot what exactly I wrote, so I don't know what it said. I was annoyed I had to put it on hold, then make the thread, put whatever closing date I put on it, then re-announce it. Yes whatever I put probably should of been re-written, but if I really didn't care I never would of done it. Which is understandable. Like it's been stated in the past, it was your first time. You don't just happen to know this stuff, it gets learned. Normally I'd tell you to stay the hell away from my old forum stuff, but go look at that shit from around 2013 and you'll see what I mean. Night and day difference. Nobody comes in here knowing exactly what to say and when to say it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 5:04:03 GMT
Moderated some posts. Lets keep this discussion on topic.
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Post by Aarooncia ? on Mar 27, 2019 5:06:55 GMT
Moderated some posts. Lets keep this discussion on topic. Moderated what exactly? Everything I stated was on topic. Are you pulling an Infomos just because I made a fair point?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 5:09:05 GMT
Moderated some posts. Lets keep this discussion on topic. Moderated what exactly? Everything I stated was on topic. Are you pulling an Infomos just because I made a fair point? You asked why robin had a pc if he's struggling financially. This is a dumb argument and is irrelevant. Not to mention robin works IT which means his computer is his means to acquire money in the first place. But this is all irrelevant.
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Post by neroblackcat on Mar 27, 2019 5:15:10 GMT
Moderated some posts. Lets keep this discussion on topic. Moderated what exactly? Everything I stated was on topic. Are you pulling an Infomos just because I made a fair point? 1) Lose the attitude 2) You clearly do not know how important it is to have access to technology, let alone computers, in today's society. -a) Many schools expect students to have access to something with shit like google docs/Microsoft word and printers. Robin is in school, about to go into college so it's quite important that he has a computer of some sort. -b) he had the computer WAY before his finances started worsening -c) He's in IT and does coding. He kind of needs a computer to help with his career path. 3) If you blame kurt for his moderation simply because of an argument you stated that would've took the thread off track, then you clearly do not know what being off-topic is.
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Post by Aarooncia ? on Mar 27, 2019 5:15:32 GMT
Honestly (I’m not pointing fingers), discussing another’s financial isn’t exactly appropriate in my book, which I offer my apologies for, but I still stand by what I said in the first place
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Post by JagWire on Mar 27, 2019 5:53:52 GMT
Let's clear up some stuff: No, you don't want to leave, you want to take owner for yourself. Who wouldn't want to be owner? I only said, if I was more active last year, I wouldn't have minded if the opportunity came up to have been one of the candidates.... The lie in this one twisted (again, thanks serrif) that I wanted to overthrow Seth to be owner, which is untrue. You all seem to believe someone who actually got the wrong end of the stick... We discussed a sort of worse case scenario in case Seth were to leave. But. That wasn't a plan. And yes, feel free to quote me even more and call me a liar, but you've heard it from me, not from somebody else. Now that's cleared up so can't be ratted out about made up "bullshit" The overall intention of this group has been completely distorted and lied about. I gathered a group of people (No two ways about that) who felt that the server didn't feel right for them. (Is that a crime?) This "List" was basically a list of admins who were treated as "bias'd", okay? We were trying to find a way to actually discuss this, and the most public manner deemed appropriate. It was contiversial, i'll give it that. But here I am. No-one seemed to actually believe what I was saying, and just took the word of someone else, who took everything we said out of context. End of story.
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Post by Video on Mar 27, 2019 6:00:10 GMT
Honestly (I’m not pointing fingers), discussing another’s financial isn’t exactly appropriate in my book, which I offer my apologies for, but I still stand by what I said in the first place The context is that they were using it to defend themselves from an argument about one of the users using the money to get themselves food because their family is financially struggling.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 8:05:10 GMT
Has Mark ever done something that was against the majority opinion on the server? Empirically, yes. Under him (like windows, but for different reasons) suggestions were usually ignored if he didn't consider them reasonable, even if the majority of players wanted it. Examples?
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Post by ?Robin on Mar 27, 2019 13:15:01 GMT
Honestly (I’m not pointing fingers), discussing another’s financial isn’t exactly appropriate in my book, which I offer my apologies for, but I still stand by what I said in the first place so what are you precisely standing by? on how im somehow rich because i have a $250 laptop?? ?
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