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Post by Atir25 on Apr 13, 2017 2:26:05 GMT
I know I'm late in posting this but I wanted to get your views on this topic.
I personally believe that United Airlines was mostly justified in what they did and that they're getting a lot more shit than they deserve.
If you dont know what this is about just google United airlines passenger.
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Post by mibbzz on Apr 13, 2017 2:56:23 GMT
They weren't justified at all, they made the situation worse by the way they reacted and then only gave a proper apology after they stock plummeted. Fuck 'em.
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Post by Atir25 on Apr 13, 2017 2:58:26 GMT
They weren't justified at all, they made the situation worse by the way they reacted and then only gave a proper apology after they stock plummeted. Fuck 'em. If the guy would've just got off the plane willingly, he could easily turn around and file a lawsuit, but he decided to physically remain on the plane after I presume multiple people told him to leave. It's as if the police told you to exit a restaurant and you physically refused to move. |
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Post by mibbzz on Apr 13, 2017 3:02:02 GMT
They weren't justified at all, they made the situation worse by the way they reacted and then only gave a proper apology after they stock plummeted. Fuck 'em. If the guy would've just got off the plane willingly, he could easily turn around and file a lawsuit, but he decided to physically remain on the plane after I presume multiple people told him to leave. It's as if the police told you to exit a restaurant and you physically refused to move. Except it wasn't the police and they had no grounds to ask him to leave. |
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Post by Atir25 on Apr 13, 2017 3:07:08 GMT
If the guy would've just got off the plane willingly, he could easily turn around and file a lawsuit, but he decided to physically remain on the plane after I presume multiple people told him to leave. It's as if the police told you to exit a restaurant and you physically refused to move. Except it wasn't the police and they had no grounds to ask him to leave. IIRC they called security to the gates so it wasn't gonna end much differently. Also they did have grounds to ask him to leave, he had been randomly selected as one of the people to leave. |
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Post by mibbzz on Apr 13, 2017 3:18:05 GMT
Except it wasn't the police and they had no grounds to ask him to leave. IIRC they called security to the gates so it wasn't gonna end much differently. Also they did have grounds to ask him to leave, he had been randomly selected as one of the people to leave. He had already boarded the plane, they had 0 grounds to ask him to leave. |
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Post by Atir25 on Apr 13, 2017 3:21:57 GMT
IIRC they called security to the gates so it wasn't gonna end much differently. Also they did have grounds to ask him to leave, he had been randomly selected as one of the people to leave. He had already boarded the plane, they had 0 grounds to ask him to leave. Just because he boarded the plane doesn't mean they can't ask/force him to leave? |
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Post by mibbzz on Apr 13, 2017 3:49:08 GMT
He had already boarded the plane, they had 0 grounds to ask him to leave. Just because he boarded the plane doesn't mean they can't ask/force him to leave? |
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 13, 2017 3:56:56 GMT
So to you it's okay for security (not a legal police force making it even more illegal than it already is) to beat the shit out of someone because they randomly chose that some guy (who is a fucking doctor which makes it even worse) who paid for his flight and did absolutely nothing wrong to have to leave the plane because of a mistake the company made? No by that logic Walmart should start murdering their customers with assault rifles because "there are too many people in the store" or whatever.
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Post by Atir25 on Apr 13, 2017 4:47:35 GMT
Just because he boarded the plane doesn't mean they can't ask/force him to leave? Yes of course it was United's fault for overbooking and requiring for one of the customers to be removed but the most logical response from a passenger would be to leave the plane and then formally file a complaint, whether it be towards United Airlines itself or in a lawsuit, rather than physically try to remain there. |
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Post by Atir25 on Apr 13, 2017 4:52:26 GMT
So to you it's okay for security (not a legal police force making it even more illegal than it already is) to beat the shit out of someone because they randomly chose that some guy (who is a fucking doctor which makes it even worse) who paid for his flight and did absolutely nothing wrong to have to leave the plane because of a mistake the company made? No by that logic Walmart should start murdering their customers with assault rifles because "there are too many people in the store" or whatever. It was airport police, essentially the same thing. To "beat the shit out of someone" is an overstatement, he literally tried to resist removal they only intended to remove him, and when you are struggling in the way that he was, you have to expect that he's gonna hit something. Being a doctor shouldn't mean anything in this situation, unless he planned his trip so poorly that he didn't give himself any buffer time at all, which is also partly on him. |
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Post by Zaid on Apr 13, 2017 6:07:55 GMT
It was airport police, essentially the same thing. To "beat the shit out of someone" is an overstatement, he literally tried to resist removal they only intended to remove him, and when you are struggling in the way that he was, you have to expect that he's gonna hit something. Being a doctor shouldn't mean anything in this situation, unless he planned his trip so poorly that he didn't give himself any buffer time at all, which is also partly on him. Private security ? police They slammed him on the ground, causing him to hit the arm rest and to bleed. He was then dragged out. Not to mention the humiliation of being a full grown man being dragged out by security, nose bloodied, and shirt lifted. Being a doctor means that he has a tight schedule. He had to go to work the following day. "Not giving himself buffer time" is BS. He shouldn't have to. He booked a flight and his seat was confirmed. He shouldn't have to worry about being removed from it. United Airlines CANNOT remove him and no excuse will justify what they did. I wonder if some people just find it cool to be "unique" and argue against what is so blatantly obvious. |
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 13, 2017 6:08:35 GMT
So to you it's okay for security (not a legal police force making it even more illegal than it already is) to beat the shit out of someone because they randomly chose that some guy (who is a fucking doctor which makes it even worse) who paid for his flight and did absolutely nothing wrong to have to leave the plane because of a mistake the company made? No by that logic Walmart should start murdering their customers with assault rifles because "there are too many people in the store" or whatever. It was airport police, essentially the same thing. To "beat the shit out of someone" is an overstatement, he literally tried to resist removal they only intended to remove him, and when you are struggling in the way that he was, you have to expect that he's gonna hit something. Being a doctor shouldn't mean anything in this situation, unless he planned his trip so poorly that he didn't give himself any buffer time at all, which is also partly on him. Didn't know airport police work for the government... That's just not true at all. Oh right a company mistake is his fault now, good job. |
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Post by aggelosQQ on Apr 13, 2017 7:34:19 GMT
So they just randomly selected a passenger and they expected them to leave without saying anything because the company overbooked the flight? Here's a solution UA; don't overbook your flight.
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Post by ?? MrPerson660 ?? on Apr 13, 2017 7:57:11 GMT
I hope this guy takes United to court and wins millions, the situation was completely thier fault. United's CEO even admitted that the flight wasn't overbooked- they just needed extra seats so thier employees could fly (instead of paying customers...). When he refused to leave the seat he paid for and rightly sat in, they called the airport security to beat him up to the extent that he required hospitalization. Thier stocks dropped a hell of a lot as well. But seriously though, 2 major PR disasters in 2 weeks (I'm sure we all remember the little girl wearing leggings scandal)- things aren't looking good for UA. If they do conk out, I say good riddance- they're a shitty airline anyway lol The twitter storm this caused is also hilarious, "Fly United Airlines- If we can't beat our competitors, we'll beat our customers!", "Enter as a doctor, leave as a patient", "United Airlines: you can't spell hospitality without hospital", "if there's no more seating, prepare for a beating". |
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