Gommeh
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Post by Gommeh on Aug 13, 2020 6:02:55 GMT
They've proven in multiple scenarios that they are directly intertwined with this very issue. Zevante, the only one who actually has any say in internal affairs, doesn't even join the server He joined the server just a day or two ago, and also doesn’t Kae also have a lot of power in IA?
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Post by nick on Aug 13, 2020 6:03:10 GMT
When Seth was talking to zeseryu about this issue. She ignored his messages and then she said : And at one point, she threated Seth with voting him off linking the Ownership Policy. this was me trolling since we joke about the "red name = mind control powers." the "we need african americans" was me poking fun at seth because he repeatedly said the n word with the hard R many times before. You're a joke, Seth was being serious 'bout this issue and you just happened to have a race joke? Unacceptable. Also, lets not forget the part where when Seth quested your position in power you threated to get him voted off.
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Post by zeseryu on Aug 13, 2020 6:03:58 GMT
How can you sit here and say that breaking multiple policies put into place is doing the right thing for TF? We have vote-offs, approval polls, exec voting, the IA, just to ensure the quality of our high ranking officials. Seth saying he's going to forcefully remove execs is clear disrespect of the policies put and place and 100% abusive.
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Post by zeseryu on Aug 13, 2020 6:04:35 GMT
Zevante, the only one who actually has any say in internal affairs, doesn't even join the server He joined the server just a day or two ago, and also doesn’t Kae also have a lot of power in IA? I oversee the IA, thats all. Derek makes final decisions
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Jay
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Post by Jay on Aug 13, 2020 6:05:03 GMT
I have called attention to this in the past, in my IA report i posted the following: 2)"sks" I would like to bring up this file because It honestly has always kind of disturbed me, that our very own EAO, would build something that seems to symbolize a man getting beat/wipped and being held by chain, I don't know if this would technically be against the zero tolerance policy or anything like that, but it honestly disturbs me that they would build something like this. Especially because they are supposed to be a model admin, that all of the admins listen to and that most admins respect and strive to be like. <> this build was pasted with permission of seth. i made very sure to ask before doing it. And that's supposed to excuse all immorality of the fact that you're glorifying a slave being whipped by a slave-owner on a kids game when you're the chief admin officer of the entire server. You can dismiss professionalism all you want because its a minecraft server but at the end of the day the administration is supposed to carry itself with respect and courtesy. You want me to believe there's no unfair system, but when seth questions something involving you, you bring up the ownership policy.
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Post by miwo on Aug 13, 2020 6:05:14 GMT
Zevante, the only one who actually has any say in internal affairs, doesn't even join the server He joined the server just a day or two ago, and also doesn’t Kae also have a lot of power in IA? She has no say at all as far as I'm aware.I've spoken with Zevante regarding my (unfair) ban/suspension by SKS and he was impartial to the nth degree.
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Post by zeseryu on Aug 13, 2020 6:05:23 GMT
this was me trolling since we joke about the "red name = mind control powers." the "we need african americans" was me poking fun at seth because he repeatedly said the n word with the hard R many times before. You're a joke, Seth was being serious 'bout this issue and you just happened to have a race joke? Unacceptable. Also, lets not forget the part where when Seth quested your position in power you threated to get him voted off. He threatens to vote me off, i threaten to vote him off to show the double standards. That's it. I think seth is a good owner, i wouldn't actually vote him off. I was showing how stupid his argument was
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on Aug 13, 2020 6:06:19 GMT
How can you sit here and say that breaking multiple policies put into place is doing the right thing for TF? We have vote-offs, approval polls, exec voting, the IA, just to ensure the quality of our high ranking officials. Seth saying he's going to forcefully remove execs is clear disrespect of the policies put and place and 100% abusive. the major flaw with all of those things is the bias that they are based apon, many people are voting not based on what is best for the server, but on who they like the most
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Post by miwo on Aug 13, 2020 6:06:20 GMT
this was me trolling since we joke about the "red name = mind control powers." the "we need african americans" was me poking fun at seth because he repeatedly said the n word with the hard R many times before. You're a joke, Seth was being serious 'bout this issue and you just happened to have a race joke? Unacceptable. Also, lets not forget the part where when Seth quested your position in power you threated to get him voted off. Chill out. The EAO should not be dethroned over a race-joke nor a racial build. This thread is about the allocation of power within the exec team.
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Post by Jay on Aug 13, 2020 6:07:20 GMT
How can you sit here and say that breaking multiple policies put into place is doing the right thing for TF? We have vote-offs, approval polls, exec voting, the IA, just to ensure the quality of our high ranking officials. Seth saying he's going to forcefully remove execs is clear disrespect of the policies put and place and 100% abusive. And it's almost laughable for you to think that votes don't carry more/less weight based on the position of the voter in question. When you have a system based on a votes, and users in the highest, most respected positions, their vote is going to take the cake, thats just how it works. For you to say the owner making an executive decision is ludacris, when you literally veto-accepted a suggestion (rank reformat) and said "if you dont like it, vote me off", is fucking INSANE.
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Post by nick on Aug 13, 2020 6:07:33 GMT
How can you sit here and say that breaking multiple policies put into place is doing the right thing for TF? We have vote-offs, approval polls, exec voting, the IA, just to ensure the quality of our high ranking officials. Seth saying he's going to forcefully remove execs is clear disrespect of the policies put and place and 100% abusive. Forcefully removing the exec and replacing them can be done because he is the Owner, and if he finds it to be the best course of action then so be it. You're debating the owner, which is disrespect to him and his position.
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Post by Jay on Aug 13, 2020 6:07:56 GMT
You're a joke, Seth was being serious 'bout this issue and you just happened to have a race joke? Unacceptable. Also, lets not forget the part where when Seth quested your position in power you threated to get him voted off. Chill out. The EAO should not be dethroned over a race-joke nor a racial build. This thread is about the allocation of power within the exec team. The fact that you believe that's true when we ban OPs for it is fucking comical!
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Post by zeseryu on Aug 13, 2020 6:08:31 GMT
How can you sit here and say that breaking multiple policies put into place is doing the right thing for TF? We have vote-offs, approval polls, exec voting, the IA, just to ensure the quality of our high ranking officials. Seth saying he's going to forcefully remove execs is clear disrespect of the policies put and place and 100% abusive. the major flaw with all of those things is the bias that they are based apon, many people are voting not based on what is best for the server, but on who they like the most so you want to go against the popular majority? ok that sounds good. Lets let dragon and co decide whats best for the server. No, thats not how you do things. You like the public decide what they want and go from there. Thats how i've been doing it since i as AEAO and EAO. I think its disrespectful to do it any other way.
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Post by zeseryu on Aug 13, 2020 6:09:22 GMT
How can you sit here and say that breaking multiple policies put into place is doing the right thing for TF? We have vote-offs, approval polls, exec voting, the IA, just to ensure the quality of our high ranking officials. Seth saying he's going to forcefully remove execs is clear disrespect of the policies put and place and 100% abusive. And it's almost laughable for you to think that votes don't carry more/less weight based on the position of the voter in question. When you have a system based on a votes, and users in the highest, most respected positions, their vote is going to take the cake, thats just how it works. For you to say the owner making an executive decision is ludacris, when you literally veto-accepted a suggestion (rank reformat) and said "if you dont like it, vote me off", is fucking INSANE. Polls are done anonymously and 1 person = 1 vote. Idk if you have even been here long enough to witness an executive being voted in, but thats how it works.
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Post by Gommeh on Aug 13, 2020 6:09:35 GMT
the major flaw with all of those things is the bias that they are based apon, many people are voting not based on what is best for the server, but on who they like the most so you want to go against the popular majority? ok that sounds good. Lets let dragon and co decide whats best for the server. No, thats not how you do things. You like the public decide what they want and go from there. Thats how i've been doing it since i as AEAO and EAO. I think its disrespectful to do it any other way. I don’t agree with what he’s saying, but what I think he’s trying to say is that the most respected people (eg. Seth, you, Fionn, etc) tend to sway the votes one way or another
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