AshazTGA
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Aug 3, 2020 23:34:20 GMT
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Post by AshazTGA on Aug 3, 2020 23:34:20 GMT
I get the fact that you've attempted an apology. However, you just keep waffling on and on by saying about your permit and other stuff. It does not look good on you if you use excuses.
Accept your mistake, then take two weeks off to reflect on your actions. Then, come back and see what the community says.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 8:42:34 GMT
i dont understand these threads, shouldnt you be apologising to the parties involved and not people who dont know whta youve done? people out here saying they dont accept it despite never being near it You're right, that's how it should be. But this apology was made for the sole purpose of getting people to stop objecting on his reinstatement. If that is the goal, then naturally you would make a very public apology as that would sway more people than doing it through DM's to a small number of people. The fact that he "apologized" after his reinstatement and not before speaks volumes about the reason it was made. This is where you are completely wrong. It was suggested to make an apology thread, Speaking about the reinstatement application, I forgot about the entire situation as it was over 3 months ago. The comments brought it up, hence why all this started.
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Luke
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Aug 4, 2020 8:46:24 GMT
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Post by Luke on Aug 4, 2020 8:46:24 GMT
well i mean its really not up to us whether we accept it or not, point is he's tried to make amends and it's unfair to say 'hes doing this to reinstate', and while I can see why you think that way its unfair to just assume he did so.
What would you have preferred he do? People told him to apologise so he did but now he did you don't like it because its 'just trying to reinstate'? It seems like he can't win in this situation if that is the case?
the only people who should be saying 'i accept/reject your apology' is the people he directly affected.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 9:02:12 GMT
the only people who should be saying 'i accept/reject your apology' is the people he directly affected. Sadly, most of the people on this thread isn't the ones who I effected, they're just butt hurt that the situation happened. We were all teenagers once, I still am, I'm making my self better. We've all done stupid shit, and no one can say they haven't sent porn in someones messages. If they "haven't" they're lying, because everyone has. It's completely common sense that some of the staff members do not have. If they get butt hurt over this message, they cannot handle criticism and shouldn't even be on the staff team. I've wanted to cuss a few people out on this thread but I kept my cool, at this point, people's getting me to my breaking point.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 9:12:25 GMT
You are chatting utter shit mate. It is clear you are only apologising because you want admin back and you realised you had to when you were getting them objects. Unfortunately, no. It was suggested to make an apology thread. What happens in the past, stays in the past. Did you bring your 9 year old self back into your life? Didn't think so.
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Aug 4, 2020 9:32:26 GMT
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Post by CurtainPoles on Aug 4, 2020 9:32:26 GMT
the only people who should be saying 'i accept/reject your apology' is the people he directly affected. Sadly, most of the people on this thread isn't the ones who I effected, they're just butt hurt that the situation happened. We were all teenagers once, I still am, I'm making my self better. We've all done stupid shit, and no one can say they haven't sent porn in someones messages. If they "haven't" they're lying, because everyone has. It's completely common sense that some of the staff members do not have. If they get butt hurt over this message, they cannot handle criticism and shouldn't even be on the staff team. I've wanted to cuss a few people out on this thread but I kept my cool, at this point, people's getting me to my breaking point. Right, I understand what you're saying here, though even the most immature teenagers know that sending porn, especially alleged cp, is bad. Everyone knows that. I cannot think of any way that it could be justified, because "we were all teenagers once" definitely doesn't. Edit: Oh and saying that people are lying if they haven't sent porn in messages is complete bullshit. Like I mentioned above, most people know that is wrong, especially to someone who is a minor and isn't old enough to see that shit.
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Post by monkeh on Aug 4, 2020 9:37:39 GMT
the only people who should be saying 'i accept/reject your apology' is the people he directly affected. Sadly, most of the people on this thread isn't the ones who I effected, they're just butt hurt that the situation happened. We were all teenagers once, I still am, I'm making my self better. We've all done stupid shit, and no one can say they haven't sent porn in someones messages. If they "haven't" they're lying, because everyone has. It's completely common sense that some of the staff members do not have. If they get butt hurt over this message, they cannot handle criticism and shouldn't even be on the staff team. I've wanted to cuss a few people out on this thread but I kept my cool, at this point, people's getting me to my breaking point. what are we getting butthurt at and what are you even criticizing? it honestly seems like you're the only one butthurt here besides have you even apologized to nero for what you've done? stop trying to justify what you did just because 'everyone has seen it' and 'we've all done stupid shit'
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 9:42:31 GMT
Sadly, most of the people on this thread isn't the ones who I effected, they're just butt hurt that the situation happened. We were all teenagers once, I still am, I'm making my self better. We've all done stupid shit, and no one can say they haven't sent porn in someones messages. If they "haven't" they're lying, because everyone has. It's completely common sense that some of the staff members do not have. If they get butt hurt over this message, they cannot handle criticism and shouldn't even be on the staff team. I've wanted to cuss a few people out on this thread but I kept my cool, at this point, people's getting me to my breaking point. besides have you even apologized to nero for what you've done? I've apologized to the entire community itself.
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Aug 4, 2020 9:49:57 GMT
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Post by elmon on Aug 4, 2020 9:49:57 GMT
besides have you even apologized to nero for what you've done? I've apologized to the entire community itself. Apologies are for people you wronged, that is Nero and Lyicx not the entire community.
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AshazTGA
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Post by AshazTGA on Aug 4, 2020 10:18:11 GMT
You are chatting utter shit mate. It is clear you are only apologising because you want admin back and you realised you had to when you were getting them objects. Unfortunately, no. It was suggested to make an apology thread. What happens in the past, stays in the past. Did you bring your 9 year old self back into your life? Didn't think so. This is not about other people, it's about YOU. Stop using excuses and just accept it and move on.
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Post by taah on Aug 4, 2020 22:40:54 GMT
You're right, that's how it should be. But this apology was made for the sole purpose of getting people to stop objecting on his reinstatement. If that is the goal, then naturally you would make a very public apology as that would sway more people than doing it through DM's to a small number of people. The fact that he "apologized" after his reinstatement and not before speaks volumes about the reason it was made. <snip> it shouldn't have been suggested. it's common sense to make an apology and to own up to your actions. you shouldn't have waited for sks to dm you. this definitely does seem forced, and though it isn't, you still lack the common sense you should have, even after all this time.
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Post by nick on Aug 5, 2020 4:18:00 GMT
The whole "He made an apology because of his reinstatement thread" is out of order, as provided by Joe, our own EAO clearly suggested him to make an apology and he did as requested, I think attacking him and making such accusations clearly shows how unwilling some people are when comes to giving second chances or even understanding the situation.
It's our best of interest to just accept or deny the apology, it's unnecessary why this thread has 3 pages of nothing by accusations and people sharing their opinion with the lack of context. An image or two doesn't give you much context and what actually happened.
For those asking why do people make apology threads, it's because they're sorry for all the wrongdoings they did and they have all right to do so. I, myself, have created apology threads before and I find nothing wrong with it. In Joe's situation I think it was the best course of action but I'm disappointed in the community's reply, nothing but accusations and random garbage being thrown around.
I respectively ask of everyone to just think twice before replying to such threads otherwise you're not any better then the person apologising.
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Aug 5, 2020 4:46:43 GMT
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on Aug 5, 2020 4:46:43 GMT
Alright, normally I wouldn’t want to get caught in any kind of controversy but I’m gonna voice my opinion here:
I accept his apology, I feel as if he genuinely regrets what he did and wants to try and make amends, sure, what he did wasn’t ok, but I think he deserves a second chance here. We all make mistakes sometimes, some bigger than others, and while it's fine to criticize people based on these lapses of judgement, they do still happen, and sometimes it is best to try and forgive rather than further prepetuate the drama. I talked in a vc one of the victims and also a witness so while I'm not going to speak on their behalf I will say that it appears they show no interest in voicing what they have to say, most likely due to this being a very personal thing
Before all of this drama started back up (aka before his reinstatement thread) I was talking with him, we hung out and played some of the games in my plot for a number of hours, and I think he is a chill dude, and it is also clear to me that there was no malicious intent here, it was a joke made in poor taste, that went a bit too far. And I think he deserves to be forgiven for this, we have forgiven people like Nathaniel who was borderline stalking, or video who actually doxxed a kid, so I see no reason why we should be able to forgive Joe.
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