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Post by Telesphoreo on Jul 8, 2020 4:44:37 GMT
follow up for: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/65717/question-networkingso basically instead of running an ethernet cable underground, i want to use this to have wifi: store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/unifi-building-to-building-bridgeso the actual distance between the two houses is around 500 ft. ik this does 500 meters which is wayyy overkill, so idk if theres something like this with less range that is less expesnive. also, it's unclear how i would set this up. so from what i understand, one is a base station and the other is an access point. the base station has an ethernet cable, but i'm confused on how that works. i see that it only has an ethernet cable on the base station, but it comes with a power cord?? so how does it work? would i be able to run an ethernet cable from a switch to the base station (assuming the switch and cable were PoE) and the other side is an access point. so this means that it'll give off wifi, right? or does it not. i think the plan is to have this modem -> gateway -> switch switch -> 3 access points around the house switch -> ethernet cable to base station would this work? what would i need to buy to make sure that all of this works out. i assume i'd need a decent switch to power 3 AP's over PoE and the base station. i don't think i'll need sfp cables, so i'm pretty sure i can get something with like 10 ports or something as long as it can supply a lot of power i'm gonna be leaving for college in a year anyways, so i don't wanna have super complex stuff that only i can figure out. so unrelated question, does ubiquiti do automatic updates? i dont wanna have to deal with constantly maintaining them and just have it auto update for me. also, are there any 802.11ax access points? we have quite a few wifi 6 devices and it seems stupid to buy 802.11ac stuff when it's gonna be outdated very soon |
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Post by Cowgomooo12 on Jul 8, 2020 5:06:34 GMT
Yes, from the sounds of it -- entirely possible. However, I'd personally recommend against it if possible. Underground network cables are ideal due to their proven longevity and extreme reliability. www.amazon.com/dp/B01D64C8QA |
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Post by Telesphoreo on Jul 8, 2020 16:40:59 GMT
Yes, from the sounds of it -- entirely possible. However, I'd personally recommend against it if possible. Underground network cables are ideal due to their proven longevity and extreme reliability. www.amazon.com/dp/B01D64C8QA problem is Ethernet starts to get slow after 100ft so idk |
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Post by Cowgomooo12 on Jul 8, 2020 16:56:33 GMT
Yes, from the sounds of it -- entirely possible. However, I'd personally recommend against it if possible. Underground network cables are ideal due to their proven longevity and extreme reliability. www.amazon.com/dp/B01D64C8QA problem is Ethernet starts to get slow after 100ft so idk Correct. You can basically use any switch as a repeater. CAT 7 (and to my knowledge, all ratings except fibre are 100m). If you use PoE-powered switch, you will even not need to run a second cable for power. Of course, the switch must be rated for outside use (temperature/humidity), and it must be protected from elements, and you must have ways to access it for service if needed. You could, of course, use fiber optic. |
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Post by Telesphoreo on Jul 8, 2020 17:23:46 GMT
problem is Ethernet starts to get slow after 100ft so idk Correct. You can basically use any switch as a repeater. CAT 7 (and to my knowledge, all ratings except fibre are 100m). If you use PoE-powered switch, you will even not need to run a second cable for power. Of course, the switch must be rated for outside use (temperature/humidity), and it must be protected from elements, and you must have ways to access it for service if needed. You could, of course, use fiber optic. but there's no place where I can put a switch or extender. from the edge of my house to the edge of the other is ~500 ft. It's all outdoor and theres nothing in between |
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Post by Cowgomooo12 on Jul 8, 2020 20:14:02 GMT
Correct. You can basically use any switch as a repeater. CAT 7 (and to my knowledge, all ratings except fibre are 100m). If you use PoE-powered switch, you will even not need to run a second cable for power. Of course, the switch must be rated for outside use (temperature/humidity), and it must be protected from elements, and you must have ways to access it for service if needed. You could, of course, use fiber optic. but there's no place where I can put a switch or extender. from the edge of my house to the edge of the other is ~500 ft. It's all outdoor and theres nothing in between Yes, you're going to have to dig a trench. The depth will vary depending on local laws. You will need a trench because you do not want to cut the cable when cutting your grass. You will need to have the repeater in the trench. Switches/repeaters are small. It would be easy enough to put the repeater in a wooden box and then have a plastic access hatch to access that box before putting all the soil back. I'm not making a 'how to', I was merely giving my suggestion -- sorry if I am too vague. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 9, 2020 16:06:12 GMT
Would strongly advise against putting repeaters or shit like that underground... It's a recipe for disaster.
If you want to do it properly run a fiber cable between them... Fiber isn't that expensive and other than the fact you might need a couple of media converters on either end to convert it back to copper it'll probably last longer, be faster and far more reliable, not to mention cheaper than any other alternative...
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Post by Telesphoreo on Jul 9, 2020 18:03:57 GMT
Would strongly advise against putting repeaters or shit like that underground... It's a recipe for disaster. If you want to do it properly run a fiber cable between them... Fiber isn't that expensive and other than the fact you might need a couple of media converters on either end to convert it back to copper it'll probably last longer, be faster and far more reliable, not to mention cheaper than any other alternative... where could I buy a fiber cable that long? |
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Post by Telesphoreo on Jul 10, 2020 4:57:40 GMT
alright so i'll run it underground so what do i need? im tryna find fiber cables and im just lost on what kind i need to get. and i need to get a fiber to ethernet thing i'd assume. but how does that work? i plug an ethernet cable into the switch and then the other side to the converter and run the fiber underground, then convert it back the same way? also im looking at fiber cables and there are a bunch of different ones. what's the difference and do i need a pulling eye? i dont really understand what that's for? i'm not running it in a tight space (i don't think) basically Wild1145 and i'll just tag the god himself StevenNL2000 |
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Post by thecjgcjg on Jul 10, 2020 7:42:41 GMT
alright so i'll run it underground so what do i need? im tryna find fiber cables and im just lost on what kind i need to get. and i need to get a fiber to ethernet thing i'd assume. but how does that work? i plug an ethernet cable into the switch and then the other side to the converter and run the fiber underground, then convert it back the same way? also im looking at fiber cables and there are a bunch of different ones. what's the difference and do i need a pulling eye? i dont really understand what that's for? i'm not running it in a tight space (i don't think) basically Wild1145 and i'll just tag the god himself StevenNL2000Honestly, in your situation, you probably don't want or need massive complexity, I'd just take the UBNT Point to Point wifi like this - www.ui.com/airmax/nanostation-ac/Running cables, especially over a reasonable distance isn't the easiest thing in the world, and to be honest, probably isn't worth it. |
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jul 10, 2020 7:55:01 GMT
alright so i'll run it underground so what do i need? im tryna find fiber cables and im just lost on what kind i need to get. and i need to get a fiber to ethernet thing i'd assume. but how does that work? i plug an ethernet cable into the switch and then the other side to the converter and run the fiber underground, then convert it back the same way? also im looking at fiber cables and there are a bunch of different ones. what's the difference and do i need a pulling eye? i dont really understand what that's for? i'm not running it in a tight space (i don't think) basically Wild1145 and i'll just tag the god himself StevenNL2000 Sorry, I don't have any experience with running fiber, just ethernet. I do know the pulling eye is for running it through a duct. Fiber likes to snap, and if the duct has bends in it, that happens pretty quickly. Also, have you checked whether you can use powerline ethernet (not to be confused with power over ethernet) in this situation? Then you wouldn't have to run any cables. |
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