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Post by Video on May 15, 2020 0:30:58 GMT
Caleb, when was the last time you properly played on SMP and did something worth while? We're resetting it because the majority of players have stopped playing because it's become boring. It needs a reset. No, it's not. One of the main reasons not as many people are coming onto the SMP server is because they're doing dealing with school. Finals are coming up, so it makes sense for not as many people to come on as before. If you keep locking threads created by me, I will keep making these threads. Locking threads without a proper reason is blatant censorship and you know this.
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Post by fionn on May 15, 2020 0:32:19 GMT
Ok.
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Post by 97 on May 15, 2020 0:32:24 GMT
Can we take this to pms instead of doing Round 69,948
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Post by Telesphoreo on May 15, 2020 0:35:18 GMT
I'm all for SMP resetting. I'd love to get rid of this massive 60GB fucking world off of my server. But rushing it is not the answer. If we rush 1.16 on to the server, and everyone joins, what's the point if the player experience is terrible due to low TPS or nonfunctional plugins. Video is right, people are not joining as much due to finals. No matter what, we'll be on 1.16 by the summer.
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Post by Video on May 15, 2020 0:35:20 GMT
Can we take this to pms instead of doing Round 69,948 When blatant censorship is taking place, the worst thing you can do is not let the public know about what was censored in the place. Taking it to a PM doesn't resolve the issue in hand.
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Post by fionn on May 15, 2020 0:39:10 GMT
I'm all for SMP resetting. I'd love to get rid of this massive 60GB fucking world off of my server. But rushing it is not the answer. If we rush 1.16 on to the server, and everyone joins, what's the point if the player experience is terrible due to low TPS or nonfunctional plugins. Video is right, people are not joining as much due to finals. No matter what, we'll be on 1.16 by the summer. Okay, we won't rush. Give it 1 week after 1.16 comes out. I am resetting it though.
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Post by 97 on May 15, 2020 0:39:51 GMT
When blatant censorship is taking place, the worst thing you can do is not let the public know about what was censored in the place. Taking it to a PM doesn't resolve the issue in hand. Sometimes all this does is let the public know a discussion is being Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SMP Discussion
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 15, 2020 0:42:15 GMT
This is a public conversation about a major change in a TF server. The last thing people should be saying is "take it to PM" or locking public threads, rather than ignoring user input, actually use this forum as what it is as a platform for discourse.
Given the volatility Minecraft releases pose, some basic quality assurance is definitely necessary with any server update, that's server administration 101. As for resetting the map, I feel like some more user input should be taken into consideration first...
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 15, 2020 0:42:37 GMT
When blatant censorship is taking place, the worst thing you can do is not let the public know about what was censored in the place. Taking it to a PM doesn't resolve the issue in hand. Sometimes all this does is let the public know a discussion is being Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: SMP Discussion Then don't fucking repeatedly lock discussion threads.
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Post by Video on May 15, 2020 0:49:31 GMT
I'm all for SMP resetting. I'd love to get rid of this massive 60GB fucking world off of my server. But rushing it is not the answer. If we rush 1.16 on to the server, and everyone joins, what's the point if the player experience is terrible due to low TPS or nonfunctional plugins. Video is right, people are not joining as much due to finals. No matter what, we'll be on 1.16 by the summer. Okay, we won't rush. Give it 1 week after 1.16 comes out. I am resetting it though. It took us months to get the free op server to be stable on 1.15. What makes you think that it won't take weeks or even months for the SMP server to be stable on 1.16 when we have historical evidence that tells us otherwise?
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Post by fionn on May 15, 2020 0:57:12 GMT
Okay, we won't rush. Give it 1 week after 1.16 comes out. I am resetting it though. It took us months to get the free op server to be stable on 1.15. What makes you think that it won't take weeks or even months for the SMP server to be stable on 1.16 when we have historical evidence that tells us otherwise? Because FreeOP =/= SMP. The SMP's plugins are much more manageable and in hindsight, we really only need WorldGuard, Factions, TF-SMP, and SMPItems.
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Post by square on May 15, 2020 1:05:12 GMT
As for resetting the map, I feel like some more user input should be taken into consideration first... I haven’t seen anybody object apart from Video (when he doesn’t play the SMP) and I would doubt anybody would since the server is most definitely dead which it has been for the past few months now.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 15, 2020 1:09:12 GMT
As for resetting the map, I feel like some more user input should be taken into consideration first... I haven’t seen anybody object apart from Video (when he doesn’t play the SMP) and I would doubt anybody would since the server is most definitely dead which it has been for the past few months now. How do you know that's as a result of the map?
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Post by fionn on May 15, 2020 1:12:01 GMT
I haven’t seen anybody object apart from Video (when he doesn’t play the SMP) and I would doubt anybody would since the server is most definitely dead which it has been for the past few months now. How do you know that's as a result of the map? Because what is there to do? The Ender Dragon has been killed (and has been for months), all farms are complete, there is a villager shop where you can buy practically every single enchant, there are emerald farms where you can get two stacks of emeralds in less then 10 minutes, diamonds aren't at any value anymore, everyone on the server has an elytra or can buy one, bases are complete.
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Post by square on May 15, 2020 1:13:26 GMT
I haven’t seen anybody object apart from Video (when he doesn’t play the SMP) and I would doubt anybody would since the server is most definitely dead which it has been for the past few months now. How do you know that's as a result of the map? Since vanilla minecraft has barely anything for end-game it’s usually down to people creating things on the server. People won’t create things on the server if 0 people are on so by giving them the things to do again and more will revive the server for most (by experience). If people want their builds I’m sure there’s a save anyways
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