Fleek
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Post by Fleek on Apr 26, 2020 22:36:21 GMT
If I remember correctly, you gave Savnith a form of malware which led to your suspension. As of the developer, I agree you were trying to help the server but let’s face it, you couldn’t code. Me and Seth had to fix your mistakes. I changed my coding style ;P , i admin i was a n00b that time , but i improved alot coding in different languages.. Congratulations I guess?
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Post by ron on Apr 26, 2020 22:39:08 GMT
I honestly and truly do think that what the party who got perm & forum banned (LightUK) did was worse than what the other party (Lemon & Prem) did. If anyone disagrees, shoot me I guess. hold up but im not arguing against that, im arguing that abuse shouldn't go unpunished, ive not even compared what lemon and prem did to light and the rest both parties were somewhat admins at some point and should’ve handled this professionally with 0 buffoonery
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2020 22:50:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2020 23:26:01 GMT
But here's my opinion: If you going to threaten to overthrow me, threaten to crash the server, actually crash the server, repeatably, with a disillusional cause that you're helping, why should I give out any respect and care to you? The saying do onto others as you want done on yourself applies to this situation. Yes this situation should of been handled better, but as stated above all sides of the story should be taken into consideration. I was engaging in this activity against them too. I'm sorry, I'm probably going to get shit for that but I'm not gonna hide that fact. If you're going to stop others from enjoying their time here because you're basically butthurt over something then you shouldn't be treated.
And no, this isn't a country law body, so please refrain from using the "oh you wouldn't kill every criminal because they broke the law" or other forms of comparsion to a real form of government. Because society has double standards, if you someones shoots your dog, murders a family member, or is a pedophile, you are going to want to kill them which disregards the law. (I definitely would). So if we want to compare the real world to here, I would definitely do everything to keep them away from here, and disregard all the rules.
There's always a time where sometimes you just can't be professional with someone. If this were a real job, you would get fired. But this is a voluntary thing, and no one is getting paid to be here.
This has also happened a year ago, so viewpoints are now changed, including mine.
This is just my opinion, and of course I don't condone what happened at all, it's just my opinion.
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Video
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Post by Video on Apr 26, 2020 23:32:15 GMT
Just a note for the record: Built up frustrations caused by a series of injustices and harassment dating back to 2018 (an entire year before the two wanted to attack the server) are what caused Marco and Light to do what they did. They tried to handle the situation peacefully at first by reporting the individuals to the Executives at the time, but in the end no action was taken against Lemon nor the other people involved in the bullying in the first place.
With that being said, it's also true that what Marco and Light did were definitely not okay. They definitely did some questionable shit at best.
I'll dig up more evidence when I get home to prove my case.
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Video
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Post by Video on Apr 27, 2020 1:11:23 GMT
I'm not sure what you mean when you say reported, so I'm just going to assume you mean the deleted thread you talked about in your first post. This is the report I'm referring to.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 27, 2020 3:36:23 GMT
I imagine robin also deleted Zaid's original thread and one of my reposts of it. You are probably talking about these: Why was somebody who was not a forum moderator given thread deletion permissions?
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Darth
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Post by Darth on Apr 27, 2020 4:13:53 GMT
You are probably talking about these: Why was somebody who was not a forum moderator given thread deletion permissions? I believe he was in the administrator group but his display group was set to developer.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 27, 2020 4:17:13 GMT
Why was somebody who was not a forum moderator given thread deletion permissions? I believe he was in the administrator group but his display group was set to developer. Yet I don't recall an announcement ever being posted regarding that and he was not in the executive roster as such, and forum administrator should certainly be the display group if he was in it.
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Post by Darth on Apr 27, 2020 4:49:50 GMT
I believe he was in the administrator group but his display group was set to developer. Yet I don't recall an announcement ever being posted regarding that and he was not in the executive roster as such, and forum administrator should certainly be the display group if he was in it. I’m not justifying it, but that’s how he had the permission to moderate threads.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 5:02:28 GMT
I believe he was in the administrator group but his display group was set to developer. Yet I don't recall an announcement ever being posted regarding that and he was not in the executive roster as such, and forum administrator should certainly be the display group if he was in it. I don't even remember giving him that, unless he was a forum mod. Still never gave him it. Edit: Zaid gave him forum mod on August 7th 2019
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 27, 2020 5:06:21 GMT
Yet I don't recall an announcement ever being posted regarding that and he was not in the executive roster as such, and forum administrator should certainly be the display group if he was in it. I don't even remember giving him that, unless he was a forum mod. Still never gave him it. I can't find any public information on him ever being promoted to forum moderator or administrator, and he's not a moderator of any particular boards. Would there be anything in the forum's action logs about such a thing?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 6:22:51 GMT
I don't even remember giving him that, unless he was a forum mod. Still never gave him it. I can't find any public information on him ever being promoted to forum moderator or administrator, and he's not a moderator of any particular boards. Would there be anything in the forum's action logs about such a thing? Yeah I can see who added him I probably have to go way back, sec
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Post by Wild1145 on Apr 27, 2020 6:56:33 GMT
... if we start going down the "This happened X ago" a lot more bodies are going to end up coming out. Is this necessarily a bad thing? Not necessarily, just reminding people that there is a saying about throwing stones from glass houses... I'm also reminding people some of these things will likely have been dealt with before and we need to keep that in mind as well, so this doesn't end up with everyone bitching about things they didn't like the outcome of.
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Post by tozzit on Apr 27, 2020 7:01:23 GMT
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