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Post by mattlawn on Jan 4, 2020 15:53:12 GMT
revert back to 1.14 untill 1.15 is ready (and stable)
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Post by super on Jan 4, 2020 15:55:16 GMT
sadly, it is difficult for that to happen. robin didn't take a backup of the server previous to upgrading, so it will be hard to reacquire all of our plugins.
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Post by mattlawn on Jan 4, 2020 15:55:45 GMT
sadly, it is difficult for that to happen. robin didn't take a backup of the server previous to upgrading, so it will be hard to reacquire all of our plugins. video might have one
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Post by fionn on Jan 4, 2020 16:00:29 GMT
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Post by super on Jan 4, 2020 17:25:24 GMT
sadly, it is difficult for that to happen. robin didn't take a backup of the server previous to upgrading, so it will be hard to reacquire all of our plugins. video might have one nope.
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Post by 97 on Jan 4, 2020 18:01:40 GMT
Siri voice: Unfortunately, it's kinda too late to revert back to 1.15 as we're already trying to get 1.15 ready even though it isn't.
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Post by Video on Jan 4, 2020 18:35:36 GMT
sadly, it is difficult for that to happen. robin didn't take a backup of the server previous to upgrading, so it will be hard to reacquire all of our plugins. video might have one robin didn't alert me about the sudden move to 1.15 until it was too late the latest backup i have is from october 2019
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 4, 2020 20:09:17 GMT
Yay for change control process...
Yay for good quality assurance and testing...
Why do these things manage to happen every release? The reason people complain the server isn't stable is because it isn't, and nobody bothered to use any sort of common sense like decent testing or any sort of backup strategy before just going "Fuck it upgrade"...
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Post by Video on Jan 4, 2020 20:16:26 GMT
Yay for change control process... Yay for good quality assurance and testing... Why do these things manage to happen every release? The reason people complain the server isn't stable is because it isn't, and nobody bothered to use any sort of common sense like decent testing or any sort of backup strategy before just going "Fuck it upgrade"... blame robin he moved to 1.15 out of nowhere
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Post by ?Robin on Jan 4, 2020 20:32:59 GMT
Yay for change control process... Yay for good quality assurance and testing... Why do these things manage to happen every release? The reason people complain the server isn't stable is because it isn't, and nobody bothered to use any sort of common sense like decent testing or any sort of backup strategy before just going "Fuck it upgrade"... yay for errors! people say i literally just upgraded the server on purpose, where it was literally by accident. on the paper repository, to revert back to 1.14, i would have to revert back the master branch in order to keep building 1.14.4 builds (but i didn't notice i already had all the patches and whatnot on 1.15, with cb/bukkit upstreams also on 1.15) even THEN when i did run the testing on my test server, nothing crashed, it all fuckin fell apart when it was pushed to the actual server where it just crashed over any command, where in mine, nothing happened.
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 4, 2020 21:19:47 GMT
Yay for change control process... Yay for good quality assurance and testing... Why do these things manage to happen every release? The reason people complain the server isn't stable is because it isn't, and nobody bothered to use any sort of common sense like decent testing or any sort of backup strategy before just going "Fuck it upgrade"... yay for errors! people say i literally just upgraded the server on purpose, where it was literally by accident. on the paper repository, to revert back to 1.14, i would have to revert back the master branch in order to keep building 1.14.4 builds (but i didn't notice i already had all the patches and whatnot on 1.15, with cb/bukkit upstreams also on 1.15) even THEN when i did run the testing on my test server, nothing crashed, it all fuckin fell apart when it was pushed to the actual server where it just crashed over any command, where in mine, nothing happened. The fact is basic backups are like rule 1 of sys admin, much less of any sort of upgrade process. You were doing a major update on the operational server, and took no backups? It was inevitable it was going to blow up in your face... Sorry but I just don't have a great deal of pitty... This really is all basic shit that any half respectable sys admin should understand by now...
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Post by ?Robin on Jan 4, 2020 21:27:20 GMT
yay for errors! people say i literally just upgraded the server on purpose, where it was literally by accident. on the paper repository, to revert back to 1.14, i would have to revert back the master branch in order to keep building 1.14.4 builds (but i didn't notice i already had all the patches and whatnot on 1.15, with cb/bukkit upstreams also on 1.15) even THEN when i did run the testing on my test server, nothing crashed, it all fuckin fell apart when it was pushed to the actual server where it just crashed over any command, where in mine, nothing happened. The fact is basic backups are like rule 1 of sys admin, much less of any sort of upgrade process. You were doing a major update on the operational server, and took no backups? It was inevitable it was going to blow up in your face... Sorry but I just don't have a great deal of pitty... This really is all basic shit that any half respectable sys admin should understand by now... i never needed your pity. anyway, i was expecting video to even run regular scheduled backups anyway as that was kind of one of the main reasons why he even has access to the server itself. thanks for assuming that i'm some kind of sysadmin though, even though i'm barely even one to begin with
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 4, 2020 22:19:24 GMT
The fact is basic backups are like rule 1 of sys admin, much less of any sort of upgrade process. You were doing a major update on the operational server, and took no backups? It was inevitable it was going to blow up in your face... Sorry but I just don't have a great deal of pitty... This really is all basic shit that any half respectable sys admin should understand by now... i never needed your pity. anyway, i was expecting video to even run regular scheduled backups anyway as that was kind of one of the main reasons why he even has access to the server itself. thanks for assuming that i'm some kind of sysadmin though, even though i'm barely even one to begin with If you're not qualified to be doing the role, then why are you still doing it? If you don't understand that backups and a rollback strategy are key before making changes on something that is "Operational" or "Live" then you frankly shouldn't have access to the server in the first place... This was one of the few benefits to Mark locking down Clanforge so very few people had FTP / enough access to do any real damage.
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Post by Panther on Jan 4, 2020 22:55:14 GMT
i never needed your pity. anyway, i was expecting video to even run regular scheduled backups anyway as that was kind of one of the main reasons why he even has access to the server itself. thanks for assuming that i'm some kind of sysadmin though, even though i'm barely even one to begin with If you're not qualified to be doing the role, then why are you still doing it? If you don't understand that backups and a rollback strategy are key before making changes on something that is "Operational" or "Live" then you frankly shouldn't have access to the server in the first place... This was one of the few benefits to Mark locking down Clanforge so very few people had FTP / enough access to do any real damage. you know what? you're not helping, either, so please stop. he gets it, it was a mistake, now we're working to fix it
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 4, 2020 23:27:12 GMT
sadly, it is difficult for that to happen. robin didn't take a backup of the server previous to upgrading, so it will be hard to reacquire all of our plugins. Posts like this make me salty because it becomes more and more apparent each fucking thread that we need a system for this.
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