About ips

I object.

If the '8-year-olds' thinks that they would get murdered in their sleep next night then they shouldn't use internet in the first place. It's their parent's fault for letting kids being online.


Bad example. IP address = public, password = private (even if it's breached, it doesn't make it public).


Send a ip-logger link in chat on the server, and you'll get yourself people's IP addresses. *I know what you mean*


1. If I remember correctly, most admins objected hence it being denied X many times.
2. Remove IP addresses from chat doesn't make you any safer.


It doesn't give you exact location, I know it because my IP address' location is in southern of Victoria, where I live around about north.


Not a good reason, admins can always get the IP address for permban requests.


People should accept the risk whenever they're online. Every time they are online, they can get virus, get hacked, get DDoSed etc. Again, I don't see why that should be another reason to remove IP from chat.




It's way more than that. It would be around about 50 line changes if not more.

TL:DR - You're always at risk when you're online.

The legal standing is that IP's are public information which cannot be personally identified. With that in mind we should not need to worry about hiding IP's.

Honestly removing IPs, will cause absolutely no harm what's so ever. It will only bring us some peace as people won't be complaining about ip's being shown when we ban somebody, so it will basically prevent drama. Also, Steven has already made a code for it, so there should be no problem adding it in.

If removing this doesn't harm the server or ruin player experience in anyway, and makes life easier for some ops and admins, then I see no reason why this feature shouldn't be added into the server.

Whilst I see no issue with an IP being public, I also think it's good practice to not just share users IP addresses publicly, especially when online communities such as gaming are filled to the brim with script kiddies who want to do their best to feel big and powerful by launching denial of service attacks from their $5 booter service.

Public opinion isn't always the correct/right opinion. History books have plenty of examples. To only hide the IP being shown when someone is banned, is a waste of time for the developers (let's get a devs PoV).
For someone to get banned, there's no need to show sympathy for their IP being shown.

There's multiple ways to find an IP on TF.
/whois, /gadmin, /glist, Logviewer, console & telnet, a GTFO, I'm sure there's at least one more method.
This being said, even if this was integrated, anyone can use /whois, and it would be absolute BS to remove /whois and other methods just so we can coddle the "public opinion". If one can't handle their IP being seen then wtf are they doing on the internet in the first place, when an IP is literally their digital footprint.

Any op has nothing to worry about so long as they don't piss off a potential rogue, and I can say this from personal experience, and can name a few. (one of them is still on TF, if my info is correct).

This suggestion is purely out of paranoia. In the long run it's useful for admins to have it more accessible to ID an IP in the case of an attack - once again, personal experience.

If it's somehow possible for only admins to still see it normally but OPs can't anymore, then problem solved.
Edit: Stevennl2000 coded it already, if one can be bothered to implement it then we're done talking here.

TL;DR Read itsbearmc's TL;DR.

edit: sorry im late on posting this (saw your edit) on my phone im using shitty mc donalds wifi so ill just do this:
/gadmin, /seen and other commands are for admins and that ops cannot use this command so whats the point in bringing it up (albeit rogues can use this, but “ips are public info” so it doesnt matter anyways) /whois is a command showing in-game stuff, not ips so that is a not just comparison. We added a timer to timed restarts for fucks sake so why not implement this, as its coded andcompleted.

Rogues are different from this, pissing off a rogue is a bad choice anyways and they can do a whole alot of other methods to get your ip that admins can use but not ops (excluding external sources).

I agree to that paranoia bit, but we might aswell stop it instead of keeping it in place so we can remove the paranoia and make it more comfortable for the ops to play and chat. Admins can also easily use /seen to find the ip rather than using the gtfo message (which i always use, /seen)

ONT: vouch and my opinion doesnt matter anyways as it has already been coded and will most likely be implemented because of that.

Yeah sorry, i took a whole while to type and get the quotes due to me being on mobile/holiday and on extremely shitty mcdonalds wifi, excuse me.