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Post by Tyler C. (Seal) on Jan 27, 2018 13:03:19 GMT
Sure, a GMOD server would be a great addition, but sort out the MC server FIRST. Currently skin restorer is broken, people are abusing disguise for tab colours, and people are just getting bored. We need to at least advertise, run events or something. Right now it feels like Windows is just ditching MC, it's fine to be busy, but ignoring messages, ignoring prompts from developers asking for things to be done, and generally just ignoring the community. Although I love the idea of a expanding, we can't expand with a MC server like this, because otherwise, we'll probably end up with two outdated and dying servers. _Windows Please just reply to messages, or at least give us updates on things. |
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Post by _Windows on Jan 28, 2018 1:55:27 GMT
I apply fixes as I can get them, and sometimes it takes a while. I've already uploaded the latest ones I know about.
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Post by Pramire on Jan 28, 2018 2:25:56 GMT
I apply fixes as I can get them, and sometimes it takes a while. I've already uploaded the latest ones I know about. One of the points is focusing on advertising rather than investing energy into an entirely new server on a different platform. It's undisputed that the amount of players online has dropped and that the forum isn't as frequently used. |
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Post by _Windows on Jan 28, 2018 14:21:49 GMT
I apply fixes as I can get them, and sometimes it takes a while. I've already uploaded the latest ones I know about. One of the points is focusing on advertising rather than investing energy into an entirely new server on a different platform. It's undisputed that the amount of players online has dropped and that the forum isn't as frequently used. While that makes sense, it is also not easy to directly advertise a server with online-mode=false because most sites prohibit advertising cracked servers. Part of the point of the GMod server would be to advertise TF. So, the Minecraft server would be the one getting the most focus. |
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Post by Drunkle Qrow (BuscusFan) on Jan 28, 2018 14:27:54 GMT
Honestly, I'm not surprised people are getting bored. The server and it's concept is pretty bland and boring compared to other servers. It'd be better if we had other things to do other than build, pvp and stuff like that because that gets boring real quick
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 28, 2018 14:34:21 GMT
Its not all a plugins issue, the VPS is poorly configured, the panels are shite and we have no map backups... Plugins make up a small part of the bigger picture.
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Post by _Windows on Jan 28, 2018 14:42:14 GMT
Its not all a plugins issue, the VPS is poorly configured, the panels are shite and we have no map backups... Plugins make up a small part of the bigger picture. It isn't a VPS it is a dedicated machine. If you have suggestions, I'd love to hear them. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 28, 2018 15:03:39 GMT
Its not all a plugins issue, the VPS is poorly configured, the panels are shite and we have no map backups... Plugins make up a small part of the bigger picture. It isn't a VPS it is a dedicated machine. If you have suggestions, I'd love to hear them. My apologies, however the issues are still the same. It needs a total re-build from the ground up like I said months ago and was ignored over. Currently the server is just left to rot effectively because there are no administrative tools to be used when there are multiple panels that dont function properly and they were never even setup properly... |
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Post by Lemon on Jan 28, 2018 15:07:47 GMT
It isn't a VPS it is a dedicated machine. If you have suggestions, I'd love to hear them. My apologies, however the issues are still the same. It needs a total re-build from the ground up like I said months ago and was ignored over. Currently the server is just left to rot effectively because there are no administrative tools to be used when there are multiple panels that dont function properly and they were never even setup properly... There aren't multiple panels. One of them is for managing all the other instances, other one is for MC, and Windows is going to add another instance for GMod I presume. |
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Post by Tyler C. (Seal) on Jan 28, 2018 15:11:45 GMT
Its not all a plugins issue, the VPS is poorly configured, the panels are shite and we have no map backups... Plugins make up a small part of the bigger picture. It isn't a VPS it is a dedicated machine. If you have suggestions, I'd love to hear them. Anyway, I'm not trying to argue this. I'm trying to say, we need to advertise and make the MC server run smooth. I'm not a developer, I don't know all the panels and what not, I just know it doesn't run smooth, and I know we need to advertise. I mean, (as far as I know) were one of the very few freedom servers, in fact (as far as I know) were the original one! We should make sure people know, we started this genre, and we will be the top of it! |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 28, 2018 15:53:21 GMT
My apologies, however the issues are still the same. It needs a total re-build from the ground up like I said months ago and was ignored over. Currently the server is just left to rot effectively because there are no administrative tools to be used when there are multiple panels that dont function properly and they were never even setup properly... There aren't multiple panels. One of them is for managing all the other instances, other one is for MC, and Windows is going to add another instance for GMod I presume. Which is still an exceptionally stupid design decision... The panels dont work together and kept getting changed, which is why I'd given up with using the Panel and thats just the tip of the iceberg... The panel(s) are simply not fit for purpose. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 16:02:51 GMT
One of the points is focusing on advertising rather than investing energy into an entirely new server on a different platform. It's undisputed that the amount of players online has dropped and that the forum isn't as frequently used. While that makes sense, it is also not easy to directly advertise a server with online-mode=false because most sites prohibit advertising cracked servers. Part of the point of the GMod server would be to advertise TF. So, the Minecraft server would be the one getting the most focus. Rather than creating an entirely new server on an entirely new platform [for the sake of advertising our current server, as you said], wouldn't it be more feasible to explore what you could do with the current server? If it's difficult to advertise a cracked server, consider abandoning support for cracked accounts; because I just don't see a great deal of G-Mod players having any interest in a Minecraft server, and as Pramire pointed out, the congregated mass of administrators would rather see an investment in advertising (and development, progress, etc) - not so much for a separate server. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 28, 2018 16:23:19 GMT
While that makes sense, it is also not easy to directly advertise a server with online-mode=false because most sites prohibit advertising cracked servers. Part of the point of the GMod server would be to advertise TF. So, the Minecraft server would be the one getting the most focus. Rather than creating an entirely new server on an entirely new platform [for the sake of advertising our current server, as you said], wouldn't it be more feasible to explore what you could do with the current server? If it's difficult to advertise a cracked server, consider abandoning support for cracked accounts; because I just don't see a great deal of G-Mod players having any interest in a Minecraft server, and as Pramire pointed out, the congregated mass of administrators would rather see an investment in advertising (and development, progress, etc) - not so much for a separate server. I refer back to my previous post. Stop trying to build shit on more shit and fix what's already broken before breaking more shit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 16:26:05 GMT
Rather than creating an entirely new server on an entirely new platform [for the sake of advertising our current server, as you said], wouldn't it be more feasible to explore what you could do with the current server? If it's difficult to advertise a cracked server, consider abandoning support for cracked accounts; because I just don't see a great deal of G-Mod players having any interest in a Minecraft server, and as Pramire pointed out, the congregated mass of administrators would rather see an investment in advertising (and development, progress, etc) - not so much for a separate server. I refer back to my previous post. Stop trying to build shit on more shit and fix what's already broken before breaking more shit. " Which is still an exceptionally stupid design decision... The panels dont work together and kept getting changed, which is why I'd given up with using the Panel and thats just the tip of the iceberg... The panel(s) are simply not fit for purpose." Did you read my post? I don't see how the panel has anything to do with what I've said. Even if that were to be relevant, we use one panel and there are no 'dual panels' to be incompatible. I've used the panel for about one month now and haven't had a problem, so what's "not fit for purpose" about it? " My apologies, however the issues are still the same. It needs a total re-build from the ground up like I said months ago and was ignored over. Currently the server is just left to rot effectively because there are no administrative tools to be used when there are multiple panels that dont function properly and they were never even setup properly..." The same reality applies to the [above] quote - we only have one panel. As Windows stated, it would be a lot more helpful to offer suggestions - blatantly complaining isn't good for progress. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 28, 2018 16:35:53 GMT
I refer back to my previous post. Stop trying to build shit on more shit and fix what's already broken before breaking more shit. " Which is still an exceptionally stupid design decision... The panels dont work together and kept getting changed, which is why I'd given up with using the Panel and thats just the tip of the iceberg... The panel(s) are simply not fit for purpose." Did you read my post? I don't see how the panel has anything to do with what I've said. Even if that were to be relevant, we use one panel and there are no 'dual panels' to be incompatible. I've used the panel for about one month now and haven't had a problem, so what's "not fit for purpose" about it? " My apologies, however the issues are still the same. It needs a total re-build from the ground up like I said months ago and was ignored over. Currently the server is just left to rot effectively because there are no administrative tools to be used when there are multiple panels that dont function properly and they were never even setup properly..." The same reality applies to the [above] quote - we only have one panel. As Windows stated, it would be a lot more helpful to offer suggestions - blatantly complaining isn't good for progress. I read your post, you want to add more things to an already unstable and unreliable server that seems to crash more often than its up now. We have no way to restore maps, and if you notice, we have a panel on port 8080 and 8081, seemingly identical both public facing and only one ever seemed to work and then it just stopped working. You have used the panel for a month, whoopee for you its been broken since we moved to a VPS and Clanforge was crap before that. Its not fit for purpose because it cant keep the server up, it requires multiple instances be running just for a single MC server, and we have no way to reset maps. I've made suggestions, many many times, and nobody bothered sorting them out, so its been proven in my eyes that my blatantly complaining will have no impact on the already non-existent progress of this server, if anything its opening peoples eyes to the shit state we're currently in. |
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