Wild1145
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 28, 2018 16:37:12 GMT
I refer back to my previous post. Stop trying to build shit on more shit and fix what's already broken before breaking more shit. " Which is still an exceptionally stupid design decision... The panels dont work together and kept getting changed, which is why I'd given up with using the Panel and thats just the tip of the iceberg... The panel(s) are simply not fit for purpose." Did you read my post? I don't see how the panel has anything to do with what I've said. Even if that were to be relevant, we use one panel and there are no 'dual panels' to be incompatible. I've used the panel for about one month now and haven't had a problem, so what's "not fit for purpose" about it? " My apologies, however the issues are still the same. It needs a total re-build from the ground up like I said months ago and was ignored over. Currently the server is just left to rot effectively because there are no administrative tools to be used when there are multiple panels that dont function properly and they were never even setup properly..." The same reality applies to the [above] quote - we only have one panel. As Windows stated, it would be a lot more helpful to offer suggestions - blatantly complaining isn't good for progress. Oh, and if you're going to be a winey little bitch about me, have the balls to stand up and do it in person instead of cowering away on the server, you're the type of person that wants to blame everyone else for their continued fuckups instead of standing behind what they say.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 16:38:34 GMT
" Which is still an exceptionally stupid design decision... The panels dont work together and kept getting changed, which is why I'd given up with using the Panel and thats just the tip of the iceberg... The panel(s) are simply not fit for purpose." Did you read my post? I don't see how the panel has anything to do with what I've said. Even if that were to be relevant, we use one panel and there are no 'dual panels' to be incompatible. I've used the panel for about one month now and haven't had a problem, so what's "not fit for purpose" about it? " My apologies, however the issues are still the same. It needs a total re-build from the ground up like I said months ago and was ignored over. Currently the server is just left to rot effectively because there are no administrative tools to be used when there are multiple panels that dont function properly and they were never even setup properly..." The same reality applies to the [above] quote - we only have one panel. As Windows stated, it would be a lot more helpful to offer suggestions - blatantly complaining isn't good for progress. I read your post, you want to add more things to an already unstable and unreliable server that seems to crash more often than its up now. We have no way to restore maps, and if you notice, we have a panel on port 8080 and 8081, seemingly identical both public facing and only one ever seemed to work and then it just stopped working. You have used the panel for a month, whoopee for you its been broken since we moved to a VPS and Clanforge was crap before that. Its not fit for purpose because it cant keep the server up, it requires multiple instances be running just for a single MC server, and we have no way to reset maps. I've made suggestions, many many times, and nobody bothered sorting them out, so its been proven in my eyes that my blatantly complaining will have no impact on the already non-existent progress of this server, if anything its opening peoples eyes to the shit state we're currently in. If anything, I discussed the removal of a feature that was inherently blocking the effective advertisement of this server. Never did I mention the panel until you quoted me, but yes, I haven't had any issues with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 16:39:38 GMT
" Which is still an exceptionally stupid design decision... The panels dont work together and kept getting changed, which is why I'd given up with using the Panel and thats just the tip of the iceberg... The panel(s) are simply not fit for purpose." Did you read my post? I don't see how the panel has anything to do with what I've said. Even if that were to be relevant, we use one panel and there are no 'dual panels' to be incompatible. I've used the panel for about one month now and haven't had a problem, so what's "not fit for purpose" about it? " My apologies, however the issues are still the same. It needs a total re-build from the ground up like I said months ago and was ignored over. Currently the server is just left to rot effectively because there are no administrative tools to be used when there are multiple panels that dont function properly and they were never even setup properly..." The same reality applies to the [above] quote - we only have one panel. As Windows stated, it would be a lot more helpful to offer suggestions - blatantly complaining isn't good for progress. Oh, and if you're going to be a winey little bitch about me, have the balls to stand up and do it in person instead of cowering away on the server, you're the type of person that wants to blame everyone else for their continued fuckups instead of standing behind what they say. I see no relevance in this comment. If you have any personal issues with me, I'll take it to a direct message; but otherwise, this is unnecessary for the discussion at hand.
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Wild1145
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 28, 2018 16:41:49 GMT
I read your post, you want to add more things to an already unstable and unreliable server that seems to crash more often than its up now. We have no way to restore maps, and if you notice, we have a panel on port 8080 and 8081, seemingly identical both public facing and only one ever seemed to work and then it just stopped working. You have used the panel for a month, whoopee for you its been broken since we moved to a VPS and Clanforge was crap before that. Its not fit for purpose because it cant keep the server up, it requires multiple instances be running just for a single MC server, and we have no way to reset maps. I've made suggestions, many many times, and nobody bothered sorting them out, so its been proven in my eyes that my blatantly complaining will have no impact on the already non-existent progress of this server, if anything its opening peoples eyes to the shit state we're currently in. If anything, I discussed the removal of a feature that was inherently blocking the effective advertisement of this server. Never did I mention the panel until you quoted me, but yes, I haven't had any issues with it. Advertisement has not been the downfall of this server, unreliable and poor configuration with shite administrators is what's pushing players away. You can not polish a shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 16:45:27 GMT
If anything, I discussed the removal of a feature that was inherently blocking the effective advertisement of this server. Never did I mention the panel until you quoted me, but yes, I haven't had any issues with it. Advertisement has not been the downfall of this server, unreliable and poor configuration with shite administrators is what's pushing players away. You can not polish a shit. I would have to say that with our current status, the greatest issue with this server is loss of interest. Administration is subjective, however the feedback regarding admin-related activities has been fairly consistent throughout the past few months. Issues regarding admin appointment and promotions are commonly addressed in admin-only posts - and I think we have made some progress on that front, considering that Mark has halted Telnet Clan and Senior applications for the time being.
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Post by Tyler C. (Seal) on Jan 28, 2018 17:00:08 GMT
I see no relevance in this comment. If you have any personal issues with me, I'll take it to a direct message; but otherwise, this is unnecessary for the discussion at hand. This is absolutely relevant. You're slandering me about this discussion behind my back because it makes you feel all big and strong, either say it to my face, or grow a pair. Please don't get this locked and ignored because of 'drama'. I just want some suggestions for Windows and to show him we don't need a GMOD server right now.
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Wild1145
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 28, 2018 17:36:47 GMT
Advertisement has not been the downfall of this server, unreliable and poor configuration with shite administrators is what's pushing players away. You can not polish a shit. I would have to say that with our current status, the greatest issue with this server is loss of interest. Administration is subjective, however the feedback regarding admin-related activities has been fairly consistent throughout the past few months. Issues regarding admin appointment and promotions are commonly addressed in admin-only posts - and I think we have made some progress on that front, considering that Mark has halted Telnet Clan and Senior applications for the time being. The fact that the discord has a number of people constantly throughout the day telling me the server is down, shows the interest is there, but the server is unstable and cannot handle it. This is supported by the issues I had as an admin trying to actually use things like the panel to reset destroyed maps. Im aware of the discussions that had been happening in the admin only areas, and they were never enough to actually fix this problem, because the threads highlighting actual change were ignored and we had no responses from people like Windows. The other thing here, is why is it that Mark is having to step in and do these things in the first place? I understand he still has a role to play, but surely this should be on Windows to be actively monitoring and managing in order to ensure his server doesnt go down the shitter. Anyway, I've made my case, I had offered to re-build everything in my own time about a month ago and never had any replies from Windows to make that possible and after being involved in the discussions to create a custom panel, which also had no support because "These will do the job" I havent got much pitty left at this point because all of the potential lifelines that were offered were ignored.
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Post by Wild1145 on Jan 28, 2018 17:37:35 GMT
This is absolutely relevant. You're slandering me about this discussion behind my back because it makes you feel all big and strong, either say it to my face, or grow a pair. Please don't get this locked and ignored because of 'drama'. I just want some suggestions for Windows and to show him we don't need a GMOD server right now. That raises the whole other topic of creative censorship on the forums, which for a freedom server really really pisses people like me off. And I think an argument has been made here and many other times, but if Windows wants to have a GMOD server to focus his limited time on instead of this MC Server, so be it.
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Post by KawaiiKurama on Jan 28, 2018 19:36:04 GMT
Honestly, I'm not surprised people are getting bored. The server and it's concept is pretty bland and boring compared to other servers. It'd be better if we had other things to do other than build, pvp and stuff like that because that gets boring real quick I Agree To this, i feel that possibly adding in a world where its rules differ slightly to allow some structure and less boredom. (Example Like a Games Realm And/Or a Roleplay Realm, Ect) Just something to add more to the server itself to not only attract more users but keep them playing.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jan 28, 2018 20:32:37 GMT
Damn you guys are dysfunctional lmao.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 7:10:15 GMT
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Post by Pramire on Jan 29, 2018 11:28:10 GMT
That was useful to this discussion.
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Post by Tyler C. (Seal) on Jan 29, 2018 17:32:11 GMT
May as well strip you from your rank if your not going to do anything to benefit the server, and think that criticism is a big joke. Like, what do we need to say to you to get it through that head of yours?
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