Kash
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Post by Kash on Dec 21, 2017 22:36:56 GMT
Bump.... anyone else have opinions on this?
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Post by Polska ?ywno?? on Dec 21, 2017 23:44:54 GMT
Bump.... anyone else have opinions on this? We should just wait for the executives.
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Post by Kash on Dec 22, 2017 0:01:35 GMT
Bump.... anyone else have opinions on this? We should just wait for the executives. Yes I agree it would be nice to hear what they think about these ideas and if they're going to do anything about possibly implementing them or something.
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Post by Alco RS11 on Dec 22, 2017 0:22:43 GMT
Vouch.
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Post by Polska ?ywno?? on Dec 30, 2017 23:09:39 GMT
Are there any last opinions on this or is anything going to change? If not, can someone lock this thread?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2017 23:34:55 GMT
Vouch
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Post by Poppy44 on Dec 30, 2017 23:40:15 GMT
Forgot to post here, but I also vouch. No need for me to write another essay as everything has been said and covered already. We need an application freeze, 1 year minimum, and when I say freeze, I mean a proper freeze, and not any of these "SPASes will still be allowed" or "family members will still be approved" bullshit during freezes, since most of these admin application approvals are from SPAS/TPAS. With the exception of SPAS and family members, an admin application freeze would just be ineffective and pointless since it's only stopping like 1-2 applicants getting admin a month, and that's pretty much how many applications get approved normally a month without the exception of SPAS/TPAS.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 1:00:47 GMT
Forgot to post here, but I also vouch. No need for me to write another essay as everything has been said and covered already. We need an application freeze, 1 year minimum, and when I say freeze, I mean a proper freeze, and not any of these "SPASes will still be allowed" or "family members will still be approved" bullshit during freezes, since most of these admin application approvals are from SPAS/TPAS. With the exception of SPAS and family members, an admin application freeze would just be ineffective and pointless since it's only stopping like 1-2 applicants getting admin a month, and that's pretty much how many applications get approved normally a month without the exception of SPAS/TPAS. No need for me to write another essay but here's another essay.
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Post by Caufas4096 on Dec 31, 2017 1:14:28 GMT
Vouch
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Post by Pramire on Dec 31, 2017 3:16:26 GMT
Forgot to post here, but I also vouch. No need for me to write another essay as everything has been said and covered already. We need an application freeze, 1 year minimum, and when I say freeze, I mean a proper freeze, and not any of these "SPASes will still be allowed" or "family members will still be approved" bullshit during freezes, since most of these admin application approvals are from SPAS/TPAS. With the exception of SPAS and family members, an admin application freeze would just be ineffective and pointless since it's only stopping like 1-2 applicants getting admin a month, and that's pretty much how many applications get approved normally a month without the exception of SPAS/TPAS. There is absolutely no reason in conducting a freeze. All it does is delay admin applications to be approved the day that the freeze ends. Freezes are ineffective no matter how they are utilized.
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Post by Polska ?ywno?? on Jan 2, 2018 4:57:20 GMT
Forgot to post here, but I also vouch. No need for me to write another essay as everything has been said and covered already. We need an application freeze, 1 year minimum, and when I say freeze, I mean a proper freeze, and not any of these "SPASes will still be allowed" or "family members will still be approved" bullshit during freezes, since most of these admin application approvals are from SPAS/TPAS. With the exception of SPAS and family members, an admin application freeze would just be ineffective and pointless since it's only stopping like 1-2 applicants getting admin a month, and that's pretty much how many applications get approved normally a month without the exception of SPAS/TPAS. There is absolutely no reason in conducting a freeze. All it does is delay admin applications to be approved the day that the freeze ends. Freezes are ineffective no matter how they are utilized. exactly. if your gunna halt applications, just take down every application and deny all of the
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Post by Poppy44 on Jan 2, 2018 12:51:31 GMT
There is absolutely no reason in conducting a freeze. All it does is delay admin applications to be approved the day that the freeze ends. Freezes are ineffective no matter how they are utilized. exactly. if your gunna halt applications, just take down every application and deny all of the Yup. I also agree with that. In fact, the application holds that happen in the past are a joke to be considered "applications on hold", which is why all of them should be automatically denied. All of them. Like said, even though application holds rarely happen and only happen like once a year, even when application holds do occur, the current system of how they work is just fucked with the amount of exceptions there are. First off, if applications really were on hold, then there shouldn't even be any exceptions why the applications on hold should be waived; the exception of having SPASes to still be allowed during application freezes makes no sense at all and just reinforces my point stronger how this current system has always been fucked, nor does family members getting automatically approved no matter what make sense too. Speaking of family members, the family policy is also a joke too; people on this server have to help out and prove themselves for admin just like everyone else does, yet family members get special treatment and can instantly get admin for free like that as soon as they even join the server and forum. So to summarise everything I said, I agree. We have more than enough admins on the server. Some inactive executives on the server such as inFAmas obviously have no clue (assuming) because they're inactive as fuck on the server (I haven't even seen inFAmas join the server for like several months) to see the amount of admins that come on, because at this point, we now have more admins than OPs in some timezones, as well as having 24/7 admins (I still find this establishment bollocks, having admins online 24 hours a day, every day is almost unheard of on other servers since a time no admins are on, is a time OPs file reports if griefing occurs when no admins are online). Sorry if I sounded harsh about how inFAmas is inactive as hell on the server, but it had to be said as it's the truth, because too many applications get approved like this server is struggling to find candidates volunteering to help out, when at the end of the day, this server ironically has too many admins. Lastly, as well as closing admin applications, one thing I believe (and has also bothered me for a long time now) is that asking for recommendations should also be removed. Firstly, asking for recommendations is what some admins consider pestering them for recommendations, yet with this new rule that's been around for some time now (it never existed years ago) is that OPs are allowed to make a request in the Admin Information board asking for admin recommendations. This rule needs to be removed in my opinion, all I see when I see OPs asking for recommendations in the Admin Information board is powerhungry and/or desperate for recs. Like 80% of threads in that board are just recommendation requests. Admins shouldn't be reminded or forced to give out recs as soon as a candidate makes a recommendation request, in fact they should have the right to decide to themselves if they believe a candidate is ready to receive a rec, especially when as mentioned we have too many admins. So to conclude everything, all applications must be denied. All of them. No exceptions why (maybe for inactive admin reinstatements, but not for new applicants applying for admin). We have over 200 admins. We have enough admins. 200+ admins is enough and we don't need more for just one single minecraft server. Having hundreds of staff is only heard of on famous network servers (e.g. Mineplex), however not anywhere else. Also, since we have far too many admins, TPASes should be removed as it's just unnecessarily allowing admins to select even more admins. SPASes should be like how TPASes work, where admins should have the right to vote on the candidate being planned to be SPASed rather than them having the power to just blatantly approve an application just like that. Finally, I hate the idea of how OPs are allowed to make a recommendation request in the Admin Information board. If you go to that board, just see what I said, almost every thread created is a thread asking for recommendations, because with this being allowed, it has gone straight to people's heads and can reinforce how this server (once an "all OP server") has turned more like "TotalFreedom - All Admin Server", since nowadays with how applications work, it's all about a competition who can get admin first and who can rank up the highest. Because as said, OPs literally these days join the server just to try get admin (because of how easy it is to get admin) rather than accept and enjoy the free OP experience they get.
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Post by Drunkle Qrow (BuscusFan) on Jan 2, 2018 16:11:55 GMT
I just went through the application boards and noticed something.
New applicants aren't getting accepted as often as you think. Out of the last 10 applications in the approved section 1 was a new applicant and 9 were reinstatements. Also look at the denied board and the approved board and compare the dates of the last posts and you'll find people are getting denied a lot more than they are getting accepted. Also there's still periods of the day when there's players on but no admins. I know that it's not realistic to have admins on 24/7 but there's some periods like during the day or early evening for me (timezone is GMT +8) when there's a decent amount of OPs on but no admins. So we should instead of cutting off ALL applications, focus on finding decent applicants in timezones that don't have enough admin activity
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Post by Polska ?ywno?? on Jan 4, 2018 6:41:48 GMT
I just went through the application boards and noticed something. New applicants aren't getting accepted as often as you think. Out of the last 10 applications in the approved section 1 was a new applicant and 9 were reinstatements. Also look at the denied board and the approved board and compare the dates of the last posts and you'll find people are getting denied a lot more than they are getting accepted. Also there's still periods of the day when there's players on but no admins. I know that it's not realistic to have admins on 24/7 but there's some periods like during the day or early evening for me (timezone is GMT +8) when there's a decent amount of OPs on but no admins. So we should instead of cutting off ALL applications, focus on finding decent applicants in timezones that don't have enough admin activity that wouldnt be fair for the timezones though
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 1:38:48 GMT
Bump
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