Jay
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Post by Jay on Aug 15, 2020 18:05:08 GMT
Having some titles not be considered 'full ranks' and others that are, it creates an unnecessary mess.
I propose that certain titles such as AE/exec, dev, any other such title that clearly isn't just a title should be given across all platforms that TF manages.
Obviously stuff like discord mod/forum mod are exceptions because they're platform specific, but otherwise it makes no sense for somebody to be six different ranks and colors between the forums discord and the server.
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lyicx
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Post by lyicx on Aug 15, 2020 19:26:09 GMT
Vouch
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elmon
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Post by elmon on Aug 15, 2020 19:33:46 GMT
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zeseryu
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Post by zeseryu on Aug 15, 2020 19:35:22 GMT
"I propose that certain titles such as AE/exec, dev, any other such title"
can you list all the ranks this applies to?
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Post by Telesphoreo on Aug 15, 2020 19:46:01 GMT
i have no idea what this means
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elmon
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Post by elmon on Aug 15, 2020 19:48:12 GMT
This is basically just for Assistant Execs and Execs becaue that's where the discrepancy is. Assistant Exec role is getting removed from in game and Exec is being done on the new forums so this is basically gonna be done.
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Jay
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Post by Jay on Aug 15, 2020 19:58:42 GMT
i have no idea what this means Certain titles are just that, titles, but I feel as if ranks such as assistant executive, executive, developer, should be globally assigned. Those ranks aren’t just titles. |
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Jay
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Post by Jay on Aug 15, 2020 20:00:27 GMT
"I propose that certain titles such as AE/exec, dev, any other such title" can you list all the ranks this applies to? As of the moment I honestly think that’s it, but this isn’t just for existing ranks this is something I want to encourage in the system itself. Having an admin be 3 different things among three platforms that are all connected is just pointless and confusing. Titles that are assigned for extracurricular responsibilities to existing administrators (forum mod, discord mod, so on and so forth) can be neutrally represented as a non-separate or non-positional role. |
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zeseryu
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Post by zeseryu on Aug 15, 2020 20:05:22 GMT
"I propose that certain titles such as AE/exec, dev, any other such title" can you list all the ranks this applies to? As of the moment I honestly think that’s it, but this isn’t just for existing ranks this is something I want to encourage in the system itself. Having an admin be 3 different things among three platforms that are all connected is just pointless and confusing. Titles that are assigned for extracurricular responsibilities to existing administrators (forum mod, discord mod, so on and so forth) can be neutrally represented as a non-separate or non-positional role. Executive - is not a title, you get higher permissions across the forums and in-game. Added as an official "rank" on the new forums. Assistant Exec - actually just a title, you do not get higher permissions. Being removed as an official in-game rank Developer - Cannot changed otherwise that would breach TFM. |
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Wild1145
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Post by Wild1145 on Aug 15, 2020 20:13:37 GMT
We should be removing ranks, not adding more... The purpose of the titles was mostly for the benefit of the forums and I strongly object to adding more ranks to everywhere, and personally think we should be removing things like the assistant executives for one thing, we've ended up giving everyone a title so they feel important when in reality it's just not necessary.
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Jay
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Post by Jay on Aug 15, 2020 21:07:09 GMT
We should be removing ranks, not adding more... The purpose of the titles was mostly for the benefit of the forums and I strongly object to adding more ranks to everywhere, and personally think we should be removing things like the assistant executives for one thing, we've ended up giving everyone a title so they feel important when in reality it's just not necessary. That's part of the reason why I am suggesting such. There is too many different things everywhere and it's too complicated. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Aug 15, 2020 22:31:55 GMT
We should be removing ranks, not adding more... The purpose of the titles was mostly for the benefit of the forums and I strongly object to adding more ranks to everywhere, and personally think we should be removing things like the assistant executives for one thing, we've ended up giving everyone a title so they feel important when in reality it's just not necessary. That's part of the reason why I am suggesting such. There is too many different things everywhere and it's too complicated. But you're proposing we add more ranks...? Which is sorta my issue with this... And in reality gets lucky anyway... Dev being an example, I (As with Madgeek, Prozza and others) are all developers in game, but not on the forums, you can't change what happens in game, but it's inappropriate for me to have the rank on here. If anything we should be ditching most of the titles anyway, the executives don't need to have their own rank, and should be granted the minimum additional forum access they need to do their job, and they frankly don't need a title to say what they do. Executive assistances was literally created to give people a power trip and master builders shouldn't have their own rank / titles... This suggestion implements more ranks where the differences in actual permissions should be nothing. Which is why I'm strongly against this. |
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Post by fleshy_ on Aug 15, 2020 22:45:04 GMT
This suggestion implements more ranks where the differences in actual permissions should be nothing. Which is why I'm strongly against this. How is he suggesting to implement more ranks? He is just suggesting that we apply all of the current ranks like exec and dev across all platforms. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Aug 15, 2020 23:03:37 GMT
This suggestion implements more ranks where the differences in actual permissions should be nothing. Which is why I'm strongly against this. How is he suggesting to implement more ranks? He is just suggesting that we apply all of the current ranks like exec and dev across all platforms. But they are not ranks... Dev and Exec and everything that isn't Super Admin, Telnet Admin or Senior admin are just titles... |
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Post by fleshy_ on Aug 15, 2020 23:10:44 GMT
How is he suggesting to implement more ranks? He is just suggesting that we apply all of the current ranks like exec and dev across all platforms. But they are not ranks... Dev and Exec and everything that isn't Super Admin, Telnet Admin or Senior admin are just titles... How are Dev and Exec just titles? As zesuryu said before Exec have access to more commands in game, and Dev are basically people who can change the cods of TFM and the Telnet Client. Asst. Executive is the only title that has no use yet. |
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