What's going on & what's happened

maybe tools that remove invis from players used on, and also something that lets you do an emergency report that pings the admin most recently online on discord
maybe a worldedit spy tool
there are a lot of things that could be made for this kind of group

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Already drafting up the policy

There are also a load of pretty good technical solutions which could facilitate this if we wanted it to...

Also really the server itself should be disposable for the most part the issue comes where you start hosting forums off-site as well and that all needs some more careful consideration. It's stuff I've put some thought into, and depending on what the longer term approach ends up being there are a load of options we can go with in order to make this work.

So my concern is we should not be implementing major changes to how TF works, when we've not yet been able to properly implement the ownership policy. My priority is to restore things to the state it was in when Seth went AWOL and the new forums feels like an appropriate decision for the new owner whomever they may prove to be.

Ultimately the forums Seth hosted were not ideal, and while I agree that they're not great I think moving back to Proboards is a step backwards, especially given the last few months of history is not here even if we do get it restored, and that makes no sense either.

I'm personally a fan of moving off Flarum, I think it's a shite piece of software, but it's not my place to dictate what people should be using, and really Proboards right now is only being used because we didn't have the server backup files, and if the forums are part of the files Seth sent us, we really should be restoring it. If it's not then well that's a decision to be made when we get that far.

I'll also say, for everything currently being hosted by me, most of it sits within the ATLAS Corporate infrastructure, which comes with the cosy benefit of it all being subject to our own security controls and chance restrictions. It also has the benefit that if I need technical help beyond what I can do myself, I have a load of people who work for me that I can task with going and making things work properly. Again that's currently a temporary thing because I've offered to host everything on various pieces of my infrastructure, but it does mean I have a vested interest in not leaking peoples data like a sieve... I've got some idea's on a better forum solution longer term (Something similar to what we used for CJF would be great or even something similar to how we did The Innovation Games Forums which had a nice mix between modern "New" forums and traditional boards).

Either way, my focus is getting what we used to have back running, and then getting the ownership policy enacted so we can get an owner agreed sooner rather than later.

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I think we should stay on ProBoards (and should have the entire time)
- The first obvious reason is that history repeated itself. When Windows went inactive and we lost the server, the forums united us all during that period. Here we lost the server and lost all forum data. The same thing would have happened with Windows
- There were two data corruptions in the short two month period we ran the forum. We had deadlocks and bugs of posts being deleted. We never EVER in the eight years of using ProBoards have EVER had any data get corrupted
- Competent system administrators - Seth was using Ubuntu 19.10... come on, I don't even have to touch on this. Internally the server was a mess
- Timeless - I grew up with ProBoards when I used it all the way back in 2013. It's worked and functioned exactly the same for seven years. The software that ProBoards makes is rock solid and has lasted this long trouble free. Of course the default themes aren't great, but you can slap on Material Dark or Metro Stripe for a fairly modern forum experience.
- Proper audit logs
- Legally everything is pretty much already done for us
- Compatibility and low data - The forums are my go to when testing compatibility in browsers or want to browse something on the internet when I have low service. I can load the mobile forums on 1 bar of 3G.
- Compatibility with upgrades - You saw the hell I had to go through to make a spreadsheet of all the extensions we had to wait for to be updated for beta 14
- ProBoards v6 is coming eventually and looks extremely nice and modern, frontend and backend

There were about a million reasons never to switch to MyBB. I'm sorry for boycotting MyBB in favor of Flarum. We should have boycotted MyBB back to ProBoards. No other forum software that is self hosted could possibly run for 8 years and hold nearly 70,000 threads and store almost 25,000 users without having some major issue or some breach along the way. That's not even to mention that ProBoards has phenomenal support compared to Flarum's (I'm not saying it's bad but it's not necessarily great)

agreed, we should've switched to esotalk