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Post by Video on Jul 21, 2020 22:36:15 GMT
I agree with the recent simplification of the Conduct Policy, however I believe there are some issues with it that should be addressed. - A major flaw with the conduct policy exists where it's very easy to undermine the policy using loopholes. The event from 2 weeks ago demonstrates this very well, as people kept arguing the definitions of various parts of the rules themselves (such as claiming that X didn't violate the rules because they never "published" the information about Y, noting that X didn't do it over official channels, or determining the validity of Y's status as a member). This issue was present in the original revision as well, but it was never addressed or highlighted until now.
- Most people are able to understand rules better by including various examples of offenses. The original revision implemented the idea of examples, however its implementation was very flawed.
Here's how I think each issue can be addressed (in order): - There are many ways we can go about fixing this one. We can clarify the individual rules which contain this flaw, which might help make using loopholes in the first place difficult and make things more clear but if not properly done, it might open the doors for additional loopholes. We can note that attempts to undermine this policy or its contents will still count as offenses, but this might be difficult to enforce. Both of those ideas could be implemented simultaneously to not only fix the problems in the first place, but also discourage the use of loopholes in the first place.
- Include a small list of examples for each rule in a spoiler (to prevent the policy from looking ridiculously long at a first glance).
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Post by Darth on Jul 21, 2020 22:38:17 GMT
Include a small list of examples for each rule in a spoiler (to prevent the policy from looking ridiculously long at a first glance). This. It gives the policy a much more polished look. And, if you are a rational and sane person, you will understand the rules at first glance. If someone tries to loophole the policy, well that's why we would include examples (in spoilers). |
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Post by elmon on Jul 21, 2020 22:42:57 GMT
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Post by Video on Jul 21, 2020 22:51:51 GMT
No, because implementing that suggestion would make the policy unpolished and easy to get around. This suggestion aims to resolve the problem in the cleanest and most effective way possible, without resorting to using excerpts from an older revision which was flawed to begin with. |
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Post by elmon on Jul 21, 2020 22:57:24 GMT
No, because implementing that suggestion would make the policy unpolished and easy to get around. This suggestion aims to resolve the problem in the cleanest and most effective way possible, without resorting to using excerpts from an older revision which was flawed to begin with. I see your point, I think that suggestion is a stepping stone rather than a finished product though. Like, we put the spoilers in then we go through and refine them. |
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Post by Video on Jul 21, 2020 23:08:01 GMT
No, because implementing that suggestion would make the policy unpolished and easy to get around. This suggestion aims to resolve the problem in the cleanest and most effective way possible, without resorting to using excerpts from an older revision which was flawed to begin with. I see your point, I think that suggestion is a stepping stone rather than a finished product though. Like, we put the spoilers in then we go through and refine them. I see your point as well, but I disagree. In most cases, starting from scratch is a better idea than trying to refine something from several years ago, which may not hold up today. The fact that the policy was rewritten is an example of this. Refining chunks of the policy to fit as examples isn't going to work as well as doing it from scratch and putting them into a list. |
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on Jul 22, 2020 2:44:43 GMT
vouch, also why the fuck was the no Sex RP thing removed
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Post by Alco RS11 on Jul 22, 2020 6:23:22 GMT
I Vouch.
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jul 22, 2020 8:52:04 GMT
No, because implementing that suggestion would make the policy unpolished and easy to get around. This suggestion aims to resolve the problem in the cleanest and most effective way possible, without resorting to using excerpts from an older revision which was flawed to begin with. That's a problem, though, because what does it mean if I vouch on both of these suggestions? If they are mutually exclusive, all options have to be on the table at the same time, otherwise the vote result is meaningless. |
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Post by 1cloud_ on Jul 23, 2020 5:07:05 GMT
Vouch, everything is up to the highest-ranking admin online's subjective view and allows room for biased administration.
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jul 23, 2020 8:53:27 GMT
Seems like I didn't actually include a vote in my last post. Object in favor of totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/67671/chunks-writing-conduct-policy-spoilers. It seems silly to me to talk about how we can prevent loopholes when that is exactly the reason the old policy was so long. I like the other suggestion better because allows us to work off the old policy: as I see it, not doing that is manually introducing a problem where there is none. |
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Post by zeseryu on Aug 14, 2020 1:48:29 GMT
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