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Post by miwo on Jul 19, 2020 15:48:09 GMT
A continuation of the thread (https://totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/67654/email-appeal-wilee?page=12) because the conversation wasn't over.
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Post by miwo on Jul 19, 2020 15:49:02 GMT
This thread and many of its post have been reported many times. It's clear some people do not understand the rules, and that's okay! Anything other than an object/vouch/neutral will be moderated. It's clear you have failed to read the entirety of the thread. Putting two fingers in your ears doesn't negate the fact that this is an abuse of power, and you trying to stop the discussion only further exemplifices this.
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Post by zeseryu on Jul 19, 2020 15:57:17 GMT
Theres really nothing else to argue. Here's the rule wilee broke: Discord: 6. If I, or any of the discord staff, find that you have dox’d or ddos’d anyone in the community, you will be banned. Even if you discuss doing so, you’re out of luck when it comes to staying in this server. Oh, also you will be banned from everywhere else too Nathan was apart of the discord when this happened. Admin conduct policy: e. Doxing any member of the Total Freedom community or using Total Freedom's platforms as a means to spread a DOX. "any member" is inclusive of anyone who has joined a totalfreedom platform, which nathan has done. These are the rules. We are supposed to, as admins, enforce the rules. If you feel the rules are bad, then suggest a change.
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Post by Darth on Jul 19, 2020 15:58:35 GMT
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Post by miwo on Jul 19, 2020 15:59:28 GMT
This is not in spam & drama. You are powerposting.
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Post by miwo on Jul 19, 2020 15:59:38 GMT
False. Wilee was ONLY unbanned because of several threads accusing Seth of abuse. If you close this thread I am well within my right to reopen a new one.  Wilee is unable to see this thread, same goes for Video. That would mean your comment is directed at people other than those two: are you saying I am not taking responsibility for the actions of Wilee? Wilee wrote several paragraphs on why he thinks he didn't do anything wrong when it's quite clear to most of the voters on this thread that he did. Then, a handful of people are attempting to back up his claims that he did nothing wrong (on a technical level). Whether or not Wilee can see this is irrelevant, given that his own words (the original appeal he wrote himself) sparked a whole discussion on why he did/didn't break the rules.  Once again you are appealing to the popular consensus, not the actual conduct policy. Read the thread, because it is astoundingly clear you have just glossed over all the main points brought up: Wilee did not break any rule noted in the server's conduct policy, because A) the victim was not a protected class, B) it was a PRIVATE conversation. C) the argument that he's an ex-admin and should be held to a higher standard is void, because nowhere in the Server Conduct Policy nor the Admin Conduct Policy does it say this. The newly brought-up Discord rules clash with the server conduct policy, i.e. one would automatically assume that the server conduct policy would override the addition in the Discord rules. You cannot simply ban somebody and only after amend the rules to fit the ban in question - that is abuse. We literally had a 10-20-page discussion on this very subject regarding higher ups bending rules to their liking, which is exactly what is being done in this instance. Do you plan to keep Wilee banned forever just because he won't apologize for a illegitimate ban? So the only outcome you want is to force him to make an empty apology thread so you can stroke your cocks to the letters on your monitor? And for the Nth time, Video apologized for his actions and admitted his wrongdoing. Wilee did not. That is the difference.  Cool. I don't give a fuk. I didnt' bring it up in my last comment, so why are you doing it now?
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Post by Darth on Jul 19, 2020 16:00:15 GMT
This is not in spam & drama. You are powerposting.
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Post by tozzit on Jul 19, 2020 16:02:10 GMT
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Post by zekurt on Jul 19, 2020 16:03:00 GMT
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Post by miwo on Jul 19, 2020 16:03:22 GMT
Theres really nothing else to argue. Here's the rule wilee broke: Discord: 6. If I, or any of the discord staff, find that you have dox’d or ddos’d anyone in the community, you will be banned. Even if you discuss doing so, you’re out of luck when it comes to staying in this server. Oh, also you will be banned from everywhere else too Nathan was apart of the discord when this happened. Admin conduct policy: e. Doxing any member of the Total Freedom community or using Total Freedom's platforms as a means to spread a DOX. "any member" is inclusive of anyone who has joined a totalfreedom platform, which nathan has done. These are the rules. We are supposed to, as admins, enforce the rules. If you feel the rules are bad, then suggest a change. It's oddly convenient that you first tried to argue for his ban by using the server conduct policy, then when that went down the shitter you switch to using the Discord rules now. Server policy should automatically override any conflicts with the Discord and/or the forum policies. A new player joins the server, doesn't read the Discord rules because that is not required, and gets banned for violating a DISCORD rule is a very real scenario. No, you are simply trying to twist words. Member means you are a part of a group, not that you have been excluded (permbanned) from said group. Per your own definition Nathaniel was no longer a member. Those are the rules yes, but you don't want to follow them. If you want to ban a player for a rule that is not in use, then make a suggestion for it.
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Post by zekurt on Jul 19, 2020 16:04:42 GMT
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Post by miwo on Jul 19, 2020 16:05:18 GMT
Zekurt when he hasn't licked a set of cat balls in minutes.
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Post by 97 on Jul 19, 2020 16:05:20 GMT
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Post by zekurt on Jul 19, 2020 16:06:01 GMT
Server policy should automatically override any conflicts with the Discord and/or the forum policies. Says who?
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Post by miwo on Jul 19, 2020 16:07:23 GMT
Server policy should automatically override any conflicts with the Discord and/or the forum policies. Says who? Common sense would say that the constitution of the server (conduct policy) would override any conflicting policies. You are not required to have a Discord user in order to play on Total Freedom, the MINECRAFT server.
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