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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 23:40:44 GMT
Suggestion changed: add a probation period for super admin applications (iirc there is none)
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Post by 97 on May 29, 2020 23:44:38 GMT
Suggestion changed: add a probation period for super admin applications (iirc there is none) Probations were also removed, but for the senior peoples. I'm not sure why there'd need to be a probationary period for supers.
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Post by elmon on May 29, 2020 23:47:56 GMT
I object to this, it's a non problem, activity is punished anyway. Ashaz, I really think you should take a complete break from TF to reform yourself, just because you're allowed on the forums doesn't mean you should continue posting. I think you need to detach yourself from the server for the period of your permban and come back with a clean slate.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 29, 2020 23:49:35 GMT
I think that the only problem with the admin application system is the fact that it's always open, and that's not something this suggestion would be fixing at all, rather just adding a pointless buffer to accepted applications. I've always felt that a supply and demand system for admin applications would make a lot more sense for us than to leave them open at all times for people to just get a shiny admin rank whenever they want it as opposed to when the server needs it. Certainly, the current system we have is leagues better than the previous one, and PaS was one of the worst policies this community has ever had in its history.
EDIT: I also think that it isn't okay for people to be hijacking this thread to attack the OP simply for posting on the forums.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 0:09:24 GMT
I think that the only problem with the admin application system is the fact that it's always open, and that's not something this suggestion would be fixing at all, rather just adding a pointless buffer to accepted applications. I've always felt that a supply and demand system for admin applications would make a lot more sense for us than to leave them open at all times for people to just get a shiny admin rank whenever they want it as opposed to when the server needs it. Certainly, the current system we have is leagues better than the previous one, and PaS was one of the worst policies this community has ever had in its history. EDIT: I also think that it isn't okay for people to be hijacking this thread to attack the OP simply for posting on the forums. This is basically what I wanted to say but I couldn't explain it enough because I didn't know how to put it I changed the suggestion because I realised TPaS brought in too many admins and problems. Also, we once trialed something called 'Application Season' where we held applications for about two months every year, it was tested for a bit but dropped as soon as a select few admins left and caused a big change. Can't remember which year though. Suggestion changed again.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 30, 2020 0:14:16 GMT
I think that the only problem with the admin application system is the fact that it's always open, and that's not something this suggestion would be fixing at all, rather just adding a pointless buffer to accepted applications. I've always felt that a supply and demand system for admin applications would make a lot more sense for us than to leave them open at all times for people to just get a shiny admin rank whenever they want it as opposed to when the server needs it. Certainly, the current system we have is leagues better than the previous one, and PaS was one of the worst policies this community has ever had in its history. EDIT: I also think that it isn't okay for people to be hijacking this thread to attack the OP simply for posting on the forums. This is basically what I wanted to say but I couldn't explain it enough because I didn't know how to put it I changed the suggestion because I realised TPaS brought in too many admins and problems. Also, we once trialed something called 'Application Season' where we held applications for about two months every year, it was tested for a bit but dropped as soon as a select few admins left and caused a big change. Can't remember which year though. Suggestion changed again. Why not just hold them whenever we need them rather than a particular timeframe or always having them open?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 0:15:17 GMT
This is basically what I wanted to say but I couldn't explain it enough because I didn't know how to put it I changed the suggestion because I realised TPaS brought in too many admins and problems. Also, we once trialed something called 'Application Season' where we held applications for about two months every year, it was tested for a bit but dropped as soon as a select few admins left and caused a big change. Can't remember which year though. Suggestion changed again. Why not just hold them whenever we need them rather than a particular timeframe or always having them open? added that just before you repleid
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 30, 2020 0:22:00 GMT
Why not just hold them whenever we need them rather than a particular timeframe or always having them open? added that just before you repleid I still don't fully agree with the terms of the suggestion because picking and choosing what months to hold applications is at worst arbitrary and at best needlessly predictive, it would be much better to just open up applications when we need a certain ratio met which isn't being met.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 0:23:38 GMT
added that just before you repleid I still don't fully agree with the terms of the suggestion because picking and choosing what months to hold applications is at worst arbitrary and at best needlessly predictive, it would be much better to just open up applications when we need a certain ratio met which isn't being met. i mentioned that already, i said for now we should work on a ratio of admins to ops 1:6 or 1:4 then move on from there at the end of the day it's up to the EAO, we can only do so much suggesting
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 0:50:25 GMT
As someone chosen by the PAS system I can tell you I wasn't ready at the time, object
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Post by zeseryu on May 30, 2020 0:56:20 GMT
No, 'PaS system is terrible.
I will also not be closing applications. If someone is a good fit, they will get admin. If you think we have too many admins, stop vouching on their applications. Almost all applications approved lately have a 90%+ approval rating.
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