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Post by Panaghioti on May 17, 2020 18:43:13 GMT
Hello. As some of you know, i have a macbook pro 13" 2016. I wanted to test install windows 8.1 from usb and it worked succesfully. But i can't make my mac boot windows 7 from usb. I tried everything. My usb disk is GPT, formatted FAT32 and right now is EFI bootable with windows 7 installation files. But when i try to boot my mac to the windows 7 installation usb, it wont show up anything. I still get that black screen. Nothing happens. My mac doesn't support Secure boot but still prevents me to boot windows 7. Anybody has any solution?
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Post by square on May 17, 2020 18:43:42 GMT
are you trying to do a bootcamp or just boot windows from the usb
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Post by Panaghioti on May 17, 2020 18:45:20 GMT
are you trying to do a bootcamp or just boot windows from the usb Just boot it from USB |
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Post by Telesphoreo on May 17, 2020 19:50:29 GMT
What version of macOS are you running? Believe it or not, Apple blocks older versions of OS X from booting.
If you're running OS X Mojave 10.14 and put in a High Sierra USB (10.13), it won't recognize it, you'll only be able to boot from a 10.14 USB or 10.15 USB.
Apple does this because they really, really, don't want you to downgrade OS X.
The same thing is likely going on here. The USB is being blocked simply because your version of OS X doesn't support Windows 7 anymore, which is stupid.
The other issue could be the ISO you use. There are three ISOs of Windows 7. One is the RTM release without SP1, the ISO with SP1, and the August 2018 ISO.
What I've found is that the Windows 7 August 2018 ISO doesn't boot unless you use UEFI + Legacy with CSM.
The only difference between the August 2018 ISO and the SP1 iso is that you have to spend hours installing updates rather than just installing the newest monthly rollup and being done with it.
These are both just theories from my own experience with Windows / Mac.
If you're really looking for a bloat free Windows experience, I suggest installing Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019. It's basically the closest you can get to a Windows 7 like experience (no bloat, no Cortana) on a Windows 10 OS.
Windows 7 really isn't worth installing at this point unless you already have it installed. Installing the updates, finding drivers, and bypassing ESU isn't really worth it at this point.
Windows 7 runs quite well in VMware Fusion. You can easily find an activation key online, and you get Aero plus all your peripherals work with it.
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Post by Hockey on May 18, 2020 4:41:18 GMT
I know this really isn't a solution to your problem, but I've found Windows 10 to be a much, much better option than either Windows 7/8. Not to mention that Windows 7 is now no longer being supported by Microsoft with security updates, so your computer is vulnerable. I would give either Windows 10 or Manjaro KDE Linux a try. Can't go wrong with either.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 18, 2020 4:44:02 GMT
I know this really isn't a solution to your problem, but I've found Windows 10 to be a much, much better option than either Windows 7/8. Not to mention that Windows 7 is now no longer being supported by Microsoft with security updates, so your computer is vulnerable. I would give either Windows 10 or Manjaro KDE Linux a try. Can't go wrong with either. Microsoft still does support Windows 7 with security updates on both an embedded version (which is basically exactly the same) and a separate update line which is easily accessible. I also find the premise that Windows 7 is vulnerable and Windows 10 isn't is highly flawed and not based in reality. |
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Post by Panaghioti on May 18, 2020 6:50:09 GMT
What version of macOS are you running? Believe it or not, Apple blocks older versions of OS X from booting. If you're running OS X Mojave 10.14 and put in a High Sierra USB (10.13), it won't recognize it, you'll only be able to boot from a 10.14 USB or 10.15 USB. Apple does this because they really, really, don't want you to downgrade OS X. The same thing is likely going on here. The USB is being blocked simply because your version of OS X doesn't support Windows 7 anymore, which is stupid. The other issue could be the ISO you use. There are three ISOs of Windows 7. One is the RTM release without SP1, the ISO with SP1, and the August 2018 ISO. What I've found is that the Windows 7 August 2018 ISO doesn't boot unless you use UEFI + Legacy with CSM. The only difference between the August 2018 ISO and the SP1 iso is that you have to spend hours installing updates rather than just installing the newest monthly rollup and being done with it. These are both just theories from my own experience with Windows / Mac. If you're really looking for a bloat free Windows experience, I suggest installing Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019. It's basically the closest you can get to a Windows 7 like experience (no bloat, no Cortana) on a Windows 10 OS. Windows 7 really isn't worth installing at this point unless you already have it installed. Installing the updates, finding drivers, and bypassing ESU isn't really worth it at this point. Windows 7 runs quite well in VMware Fusion. You can easily find an activation key online, and you get Aero plus all your peripherals work with it. I do not have anymore macOS installed on my mac. But i can boot into internet recovery mode, where it allows me to install macOS 10.12.6 Sierra. Right now i have a windows 8.1 partition. |
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Post by Panaghioti on May 18, 2020 8:48:09 GMT
Telesphoreo do u think that i can get more gaming performance with win10 enterprise LTSC ? Because that`s why i wanted to test windows 7 and 8.1 installations.
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Post by Telesphoreo on May 18, 2020 20:21:01 GMT
Telesphoreo do u think that i can get more gaming performance with win10 enterprise LTSC ? Because that`s why i wanted to test windows 7 and 8.1 installations. Yes, games are most optimized for windows 10 now, especially since it has DirectX 12 support |
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Post by Panaghioti on May 19, 2020 7:23:50 GMT
Telesphoreo do u think that i can get more gaming performance with win10 enterprise LTSC ? Because that`s why i wanted to test windows 7 and 8.1 installations. Yes, games are most optimized for windows 10 now, especially since it has DirectX 12 support well, fuck. because i accidentally formatted my usb stick for windows 10 and i lost the windows preinstallation drivers. Now i have to reinstall macOS to download the windows support software and save it to my usb |
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Post by Panaghioti on May 19, 2020 7:26:43 GMT
Btw. Is windows 10 enterprise ltsc better than regular windows 10 pro?
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Post by Video on May 19, 2020 7:29:15 GMT
Btw. Is windows 10 enterprise ltsc better than regular windows 10 pro? Absolutely; Enterprise LTSC is enterprise-grade, as opposed to Windows 10 Pro which is mainly for consumers. It not only gets security updates only (meaning no stupid ass feature updates), but it also lacks a fuckton of bloatware like Cortana and Microsoft Edge. |
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