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Post by mychaeljkmax on Jul 30, 2019 22:50:03 GMT
Panther created a thread earlier with a few images displaying admins creating sexual builds. According to the conduct policy, as is known, that’s a violation under section 3. It would be best if we either removed it from the policy as a whole or if admins would stop doing it altogether. Otherwise, we have a double standard at play here, which is quite unfair to the OPs. The idea of the sexual builds doesn’t strike me as the main problem here as much as admins having the ability to bend the rules. I’m not going to call any admins out or name any names in public here because I find that to be both disrespectful and counterproductive, but I wanted to start a discussion about it because I think that would be best.
I posted this in General Discussion because I want the OPs to be able to see it as well - otherwise feel free to move it if you don’t think this is the appropriate place. If so, I apologize in advance.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 23:00:41 GMT
I really do not think a second thread has to be made about this matter. It's legit tom-fuckery at this point.
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Post by mychaeljkmax on Jul 30, 2019 23:02:11 GMT
I really do not think a second thread has to be made about this matter. It's legit tom-fuckery at this point. I thought that bringing up a discussion would be useful, because that’s the only way we’re going to reach a general agreement since the other thread has already erupted into drama. My intention here is to put an end to the drama and instead bring up a more civil discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 23:19:14 GMT
I thought that bringing up a discussion would be useful, because that’s the only way we’re going to reach a general agreement since the other thread has already erupted into drama. My intention here is to put an end to the drama and instead bring up a more civil discussion. Fair enough for me |
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Post by CorruptedPolygon on Jul 30, 2019 23:30:29 GMT
The main issue with this rule is that some people take stuff like wool penises more seriously than others. Obviously, little children aren't going to like that, whereas others will just shrug it off and think it's part of the server. This is an issue too; with a name like "Total Freedom", why wouldn't you want to build penises? After all, it's "freedom", right? Do whatever you want, right? Obviously I'm not saying throw all of our well-established rules in the bin but I think this rule in particular should dissapear. While yes, children aren't going to like it, the easiest solution is to just fly or warp somewhere else. There's about 30 million blocks in a world in Minecraft. There's plenty of places to go.
Of course, if there's someone bothering someone with penises, then it becomes an issue since, obviously, it'd be griefing. But if there's just a random dick several hundred blocks away from spawn, or even near spawn, nobody should get punished for it.
That's just my two cents on this though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2019 23:37:47 GMT
The main issue with this rule is that some people take stuff like wool penises more seriously than others. Obviously, little children aren't going to like that, whereas others will just shrug it off and think it's part of the server. This is an issue too; with a name like "Total Freedom", why wouldn't you want to build penises? After all, it's "freedom", right? Do whatever you want, right? Obviously I'm not saying throw all of our well-established rules in the bin but I think this rule in particular should dissapear. While yes, children aren't going to like it, the easiest solution is to just fly or warp somewhere else. There's about 30 million blocks in a world in Minecraft. There's plenty of places to go. Of course, if there's someone bothering someone with penises, then it becomes an issue since, obviously, it'd be griefing. But if there's just a random dick several hundred blocks away from spawn, or even near spawn, nobody should get punished for it. That's just my two cents on this though. honestly i think the rule against dick builds is retarded and shouldn't exist, so i agree. I mean, why should admins get worked up over a few wool blocks in the shape of a basic peeny weeny? it's not like we can delete EVERY peepee build on totalfreedom. plus, nobody even cares about them accept admins who have to care. a good analogy would be innapropriate sharpie stuff like dicks people draw on buildings in real life. You see them, and you might laugh a bit but you don't care because you see it everywhere anyways. if anyone reading has beef with dick builds, either get a life or just ignore it and mind your own damn business instead of picking a fight with an inanimate object. Don't feed the trolls. unless of course someone is wrecking the server by copying and pasting them in huge clumps that intersect with other builds, THEN take action, but if they are just building a dick for the sake of building a pointless dick that isn't even doing anything other than existing, then leave it alone. They would just rebuild it again and again anyways if it was taken down. and what's a little kid going to do about it anyways? call his/her mommy or daddy? even if some little kid did that, his/her parents would probably just tell them not to play on totalfreedom again and there. problem solved. I mean what do you expect to happen? do you expect parents to sue us or something? |
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Post by mychaeljkmax on Jul 30, 2019 23:57:08 GMT
I would really prefer that this discussion stays absolutely on topic. Looks like it’s already starting to get derailed.
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Post by Luke on Jul 31, 2019 0:00:54 GMT
I would really prefer that this discussion stays absolutely on topic. Looks like it’s already starting to get derailed. Your original point entails that we should enforce the policy either completely, both admins and OPs or not at all. I agree with this. There have been several cases with this, such as flooding chat. The one you're referring to is penis builds. The only people who really care are below the age of 10. Chances are however they just find it funny. I say we just remove it from the conduct policy rather than making it enforced. Admins shouldn't be exempt in cases like this. I'm sorry for derailing, see Forum Sanction Requests, and I have stopped replying to the user. |
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Post by mychaeljkmax on Jul 31, 2019 0:04:52 GMT
I would really prefer that this discussion stays absolutely on topic. Looks like it’s already starting to get derailed. Your original point entails that we should enforce the policy either completely, both admins and OPs or not at all. I agree with this. There have been several cases with this, such as flooding chat. The one you're referring to is penis builds. The only people who really care are below the age of 10. Chances are however they just find it funny. I say we just remove it from the conduct policy rather than making it enforced. Admins shouldn't be exempt in cases like this. I'm sorry for derailing, see Forum Sanction Requests, and I have stopped replying to the user. I agree we should enforce the rule on all ends, but I personally don’t agree that it should be removed because of the age range of the OPs that use the server. However, I will say again that the main issue here isn’t the sexual builds themselves but the double standard for enforcing them. |
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Post by _Windows on Jul 31, 2019 0:06:09 GMT
I personally think the rule should be altered to allow sexual builds as long as they are not being shoved in people's faces (i.e. they're away from spawn, and not put near someone else's build, etc). These builds should be subject to admin removal at the admin's discretion but I do not feel they are worth banning over.
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Post by Luke on Jul 31, 2019 0:07:11 GMT
Your original point entails that we should enforce the policy either completely, both admins and OPs or not at all. I agree with this. There have been several cases with this, such as flooding chat. The one you're referring to is penis builds. The only people who really care are below the age of 10. Chances are however they just find it funny. I say we just remove it from the conduct policy rather than making it enforced. Admins shouldn't be exempt in cases like this. I'm sorry for derailing, see Forum Sanction Requests, and I have stopped replying to the user. I agree we should enforce the rule on all ends, but I personally don’t agree that it should be removed because of the age range of the OPs that use the server. However, I will say again that the main issue here isn’t the sexual builds themselves but the double standard for enforcing them. I understand your point, and I do agree that rules should be enforced on both ends. another solution would be restricting nsfw builds in adminworld or plots where they can be concealed yea aren't we both breaking the rules for getting off topic ? Lol how quickly you changed tho. i'm just going to keep having fun until i get banned again and call it a day. You are proving my statement by making this post. just block the user, i have at this stage |
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Post by mychaeljkmax on Jul 31, 2019 0:08:04 GMT
I personally think the rule should be altered to allow sexual builds as long as they are not being shoved in people's faces (i.e. they're away from spawn, and not put near someone else's build, etc). These builds should be subject to admin removal at the admin's discretion but I do not feel they are worth banning over. That’s an interesting idea, similar to how swastikas used to sometimes be enforced. |
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Post by mattlawn on Jul 31, 2019 0:48:41 GMT
the thing is I don't want new people to see a big dong when they first join
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Post by mychaeljkmax on Jul 31, 2019 0:51:59 GMT
the thing is I don't want new people to see a big dong when they first join I see your point. That’s not exactly the best first impression to give. |
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Post by JagWire on Jul 31, 2019 1:25:36 GMT
I personally think the rule should be altered to allow sexual builds as long as they are not being shoved in people's faces (i.e. they're away from spawn, and not put near someone else's build, etc). These builds should be subject to admin removal at the admin's discretion but I do not feel they are worth banning over. I also agree with this, as a general rule of thumb, if it can't be seen at spawn, or doesn't affect other players, I don't really see what the problem would be. |
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