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Post by Pramire on Jul 20, 2018 8:08:24 GMT
Just because he is an administrator does not mean he can do whatever he wants. There are sanctions involved. The executives felt that sanctions needed to be taken into action so they did just that. They are already offering Irix the chance to reinstate after clearly abusing their role as a Senior Admin. I don’t see what more you could ask from this. All I ask is why an op was banned for clearly just minding their own business and being FORCED to deal with such misconduct from a staff member who should be doing nothing but helping the op and bettering their experience. I do admit, sure the OP could have reported him instead of breaking what Irix built to prevent himself from being banned, but he was just trying to stop the misconduct so he could get back to quietly building his stuff like he was doing previous to Irix’s actions. No, I don't think anyone can get away with something just because they're an admin, I'm just wondering why this removal has evolved from "explain yourself" to "and by the way were're suspending you for these reports". I'm asking why something that was supposed to be an temporary removal to provide an explanation has turned into a week long endeavor and now a suspension. They shouldn't have had to file a reinstatement for tnis, although, I do understand why people want irix to. A large part of this issue is communication, things such as the actual PMs would be useful for everyone to have when making the assertion if irix was in the wrong.
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Post by inFAmas97 on Jul 20, 2018 8:17:22 GMT
Sorry if that was poorly explained - the reports of abuse from irix go back quite a bit. He has a tendency to abuse his powers, while it may be in relatively minor ways, the problem is not about how big of a deal any single report is, it's about the sheer number and frequency of these reports. That there has been no change despite the warnings. The majority of these reports are of minor issues that were taken out of proportion by irixs actions. No admin should be consistently acting this way, especially not seniors. I went through my PMs and posted the evidence from several of the reports below: pastebin.com/EsE3qzbS-- [00:34:30] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> AsunaYuuki0811
[00:34:43] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I would appreciate it if the majority of your tag or username was in the English language.
[00:34:49] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> This is an English-speaking server.
[00:38:15] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /realname nagi
[00:38:17] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> AsunaYuuki0811
[00:38:21] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I'm going to ask you again.
[00:38:47] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I see one English word and that's "loves"
[00:39:30] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I just looked that word up and it is definitely non-English.
[00:39:49] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I do, and being an admin, you're entitled to heed to this request.
[00:40:46] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I'm not threatening you at all. I don't think you know what a threat is.
[00:41:15] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> Because I am an administrator, and being in that position, you are required to.
[00:41:22] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> Our conduct policy covers this.
[00:42:21] [Server thread/INFO]: CrazyFrogFan23 issued server command: /tp irix
[00:42:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tpo nagi
[00:42:46] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tpo nagi
[00:42:52] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /whois AsunaYuuki0811
[00:43:45] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /realname nagi
[00:43:48] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /stfu AsunaYuuki0811
[00:43:48] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Muting AsunaYuuki0811
[00:43:54] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /say I'm not going to argue with you.
[00:43:54] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server:irix] I'm not going to argue with you.
[00:44:11] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /potion clearall
[00:44:11] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Cleared all potion effects from all players
[00:45:51] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /opall -c
[00:45:51] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Opping all players on the server
[00:46:03] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tpo fj
[00:46:05] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tpo fk
[00:46:30] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /potion clearall
[00:46:30] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Cleared all potion effects from all players
[00:46:30] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault
[00:46:40] [Async Chat Thread - #4/INFO]: <YbsonLuiz> Irix is a milf
[00:46:46] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /stfu YbsonLuiz
[00:46:46] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Muting YbsonLuiz
[00:46:49] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault,
[00:47:02] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /cmdspy
[00:47:11] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault, tho you coukd just search up what it means
[00:47:19] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix
[00:47:23] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix hi
[00:47:30] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix can i use //fill?
[00:47:40] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r Do you have access to the command?
[00:47:51] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault, tho you coukd just search up what it means, tho this isnt spam because Im actually-
[00:47:52] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix yes
[00:47:54] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r Then the answer is yes.
[00:48:03] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix i used it and it worked
[00:48:21] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix well thank you! promise i wont grief anymore like before
[00:48:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r No problem. If you need anything, let me know.
[00:48:46] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /spawn
[00:48:51] [Server thread/INFO]: YbsonLuiz issued server command: /spawn Irix
[00:48:51] [Server thread/INFO]: [PREPROCESS_COMMAND] YbsonLuiz(YbsonLuiz): /spawn Irix
[00:48:52] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix Thank you!
[00:48:59] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault, tho you coukd just search up what it means, tho this isnt spam because-
[00:48:59] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gtfo YbsonLuiz
[00:48:59] [Server thread/INFO]: §cirix - Banning YbsonLuiz, IP: 45.77.*.*
§cBanned by: §6irix
[00:49:06] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gmc
[00:49:14] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix im actually discussing something with you
[00:49:29] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /o I just banned him
[00:49:29] [Server thread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [ADMIN] irix §8[§6SrA§8]§6§f: I just banned him
[00:49:36] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix not just mindlessly typing random letters
[00:49:44] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r It is spam because you're trying to argue with me. The bottom line is, you need to remove the tag.
[00:50:08] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix .... Read the rules
[00:50:42] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /tp irix
[00:51:10] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r No. The rules state that you're entitled to abide by what I ask of you.
[00:51:24] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r And if you don't do that, I will have to ban you from this server. I'm done fighting with you.
[00:51:28] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix thugh your request is unreasonable and unfair?
[00:51:36] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix Though*
[00:51:38] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r It's perfectly reasonable and perfectly fair.
[00:51:48] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tag
[00:51:48] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix in what way?
[00:52:06] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix nobody's complaing, and as long as i dont type into the chat, we wont have a problem
[00:52:09] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r In the way that what I'm requesting can be accomplished through a simple command - "/tag off".
[00:52:17] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r So you have ten minutes.
[00:52:37] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r If I check back in ten minutes and you're still using the tag, there will be a consequence.
[00:55:11] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tag
[00:55:16] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tag clearall
[00:55:16] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Removing all tags
[00:55:19] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gmsp
[00:55:21] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix But if Im not talking.... Nobody'll see it
[01:10:52] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gmc
-- prnt.sc/i9uanaprnt.sc/i9uat8(the post in question was: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/58362/syntaxables-false-ban ) -- [02:54:27] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:28] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:28] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:28] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:30] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gmsp
[02:54:32] [Server thread/INFO]: HoverTechV3 issued server command: /spawn
[02:54:32] [Server thread/INFO]: _00 issued server command: /o remember when fastbow used to work
[02:54:32] [Server thread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [ADMIN] _00 §8[§bSA§8]§b§f: remember when fastbow used to work
[02:54:35] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: <Dash_The_Dog_YT> wow
[02:54:36] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: <WorldEdit> o.o
[02:54:37] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:39] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: [SA] <HoverTechV3> bruh
[02:54:41] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:43] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:43] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:43] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:44] [Server thread/INFO]: HoverTechV3 issued server command: /cmdspy
[02:54:45] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: <Dash_The_Dog_YT> only an SCP can do that
[02:54:52] [Server thread/INFO]: _00 issued server command: /stopsound _00
[02:54:52] [Server thread/INFO]: [_00: Stopped all sounds for _00]
[02:54:56] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: <WorldEdit> lol
[02:55:01] [NanoHttpd Request Processor (#5)/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] /107.191.126.229 is downloading latest.log.
he was reportedly spamming /deafen and /expel at spawn - while it may not seem a big problem, it was big enough for 3 separate admins to report it.-- totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/60139/duckvicki?page=1&scrollTo=690347(again, nothing huge but it should never have gotten to this point especially when he has already been warned about taking things out of hand.) Hopefullt that helps to clarify things.
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Post by LightUk on Jul 20, 2018 9:54:00 GMT
To be honest, I am glad his gone, he has been scaring me of, and threatening me at times, I never liked, and I personally always feared him. There has been many situations where I felt like he broke the policy and abused his powers, but I was too afraid to say something about it, and sometimes he goes and talks about some of those extremist views in admin chat, which when that used to happen, I just kept quiet thinking in my mind that something is not alright with him. I am sure there are many other admins which had similar experiences and problems with Irix.
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Post by blackedout on Jul 20, 2018 12:23:07 GMT
Irix got what he deserved. He built on the build on purpose and was being a dick. He did a lot of other smaller things, but they added up.
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Post by MrDicty/DrJenal on Jul 20, 2018 13:43:30 GMT
To be honest, I am glad his gone, he has been scaring me of, and threatening me at times, I never liked, and I personally always feared him. There has been many situations where I felt like he broke the policy and abused his powers, but I was too afraid to say something about it, and sometimes he goes and talks about some of those extremist views in admin chat, which when that used to happen, I just kept quiet thinking in my mind that something is not alright with him. I am sure there are many other admins which had similar experiences and problems with Irix. Agreed. For the past few months Irix has really looked threatening to me, he would always scare me and threaten me as LightUk said. There was once a time where I didn't want to join in game whenever he was on because I was afraid of his general attitude. I have seen many things he has done that have made me wonder how he gets away with those things. But because of his bright orange senior tag that gives me the right to stay silent and yet as mychaeljkmax said below being a senior does not give you a ticket to bend the rules, nor does any rank. He also talks about very sensitive topics in the admin chat. His attitude was repulsive for a senior admin. In this case he was just taking his everyday attitude to another level. Building that close to another players build is clearly in breach of their build, its inexcusable. The build in adminworld is editing another users build which as we know has been linked with griefing and misconduct. If I was the op being threatened in that situation I would be petrified and I have no other way of expressing that, what I saw in those logs is completely unacceptable and the op could have potentially had no idea of what to do. Although he was not suspended for one thing, it was building up overtime, I am glad that he has been removed because he was just reckless and I always feared him. He'll have a long way to go before getting my trust back. I certainly will not be vouching if he applies for reinstatement on the 25th. I am quite reluctant of vouching for a long time, but for that he'll have to prove himself.
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Post by mychaeljkmax on Jul 20, 2018 14:37:09 GMT
To be honest, I am glad his gone, he has been scaring me of, and threatening me at times, I never liked, and I personally always feared him. There has been many situations where I felt like he broke the policy and abused his powers, but I was too afraid to say something about it, and sometimes he goes and talks about some of those extremist views in admin chat, which when that used to happen, I just kept quiet thinking in my mind that something is not alright with him. I am sure there are many other admins which had similar experiences and problems with Irix. Agreed. For the past few months Irix has really looked threatening to me, he would always scare me and threaten me said. There was once a time where I didn't want to join in game whenever he was on because I was afraid of his general attitude. I have seen many things he has done that have made me wonder how he gets away with those things. But because of his bright orange senior tag that gives me the right to stay silent. He also talks about very sensitive topics in the admin chat. His attitude was repulsive for a senior admin. In this case he was just taking his everyday attitude to another level. Building that close to another players build is clearly in breach of their build, its inexcusable. The build in adminworld is editing another users build which as we know has been linked with griefing and misconduct. If I was the op being threatened in that situation I would be petrified and I have no other way of expressing that, what I saw in those logs is completely unacceptable and the op could have potentially had no idea of what to do. Although he was not suspended for one thing, it was building up overtime, I am glad that he has been removed because he was just reckless and I always feared him. He'll have a long way to go before getting my trust back. I certainly will not be vouching if he applies for reinstatement on the 25th. I am quite reluctant of vouching for a long time, but for that he'll have to prove himself. What admins too often forget is that being a Senior does not grant you a ticket to bend the rules. If only grants you a ticket to enforce the existing rules with more resources. I agree with your point and with most of the points on this thread.
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Post by jwmphall on Jul 20, 2018 20:48:41 GMT
Sorry if that was poorly explained - the reports of abuse from irix go back quite a bit. He has a tendency to abuse his powers, while it may be in relatively minor ways, the problem is not about how big of a deal any single report is, it's about the sheer number and frequency of these reports. That there has been no change despite the warnings. The majority of these reports are of minor issues that were taken out of proportion by irixs actions. No admin should be consistently acting this way, especially not seniors. I went through my PMs and posted the evidence from several of the reports below: pastebin.com/EsE3qzbS-- [00:34:30] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> AsunaYuuki0811
[00:34:43] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I would appreciate it if the majority of your tag or username was in the English language.
[00:34:49] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> This is an English-speaking server.
[00:38:15] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /realname nagi
[00:38:17] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> AsunaYuuki0811
[00:38:21] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I'm going to ask you again.
[00:38:47] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I see one English word and that's "loves"
[00:39:30] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I just looked that word up and it is definitely non-English.
[00:39:49] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I do, and being an admin, you're entitled to heed to this request.
[00:40:46] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> I'm not threatening you at all. I don't think you know what a threat is.
[00:41:15] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> Because I am an administrator, and being in that position, you are required to.
[00:41:22] [Async Chat Thread - #3/INFO]: [SrA] <irix> Our conduct policy covers this.
[00:42:21] [Server thread/INFO]: CrazyFrogFan23 issued server command: /tp irix
[00:42:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tpo nagi
[00:42:46] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tpo nagi
[00:42:52] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /whois AsunaYuuki0811
[00:43:45] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /realname nagi
[00:43:48] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /stfu AsunaYuuki0811
[00:43:48] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Muting AsunaYuuki0811
[00:43:54] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /say I'm not going to argue with you.
[00:43:54] [Server thread/INFO]: [Server:irix] I'm not going to argue with you.
[00:44:11] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /potion clearall
[00:44:11] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Cleared all potion effects from all players
[00:45:51] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /opall -c
[00:45:51] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Opping all players on the server
[00:46:03] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tpo fj
[00:46:05] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tpo fk
[00:46:30] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /potion clearall
[00:46:30] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Cleared all potion effects from all players
[00:46:30] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault
[00:46:40] [Async Chat Thread - #4/INFO]: <YbsonLuiz> Irix is a milf
[00:46:46] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /stfu YbsonLuiz
[00:46:46] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Muting YbsonLuiz
[00:46:49] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault,
[00:47:02] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /cmdspy
[00:47:11] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault, tho you coukd just search up what it means
[00:47:19] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix
[00:47:23] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix hi
[00:47:30] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix can i use //fill?
[00:47:40] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r Do you have access to the command?
[00:47:51] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault, tho you coukd just search up what it means, tho this isnt spam because Im actually-
[00:47:52] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix yes
[00:47:54] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r Then the answer is yes.
[00:48:03] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix i used it and it worked
[00:48:21] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix well thank you! promise i wont grief anymore like before
[00:48:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r No problem. If you need anything, let me know.
[00:48:46] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /spawn
[00:48:51] [Server thread/INFO]: YbsonLuiz issued server command: /spawn Irix
[00:48:51] [Server thread/INFO]: [PREPROCESS_COMMAND] YbsonLuiz(YbsonLuiz): /spawn Irix
[00:48:52] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /msg irix Thank you!
[00:48:59] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix I read the rules, It says it just needs to be readable, I'm not making it un readable, you can obviously read it, if you dont know the meaning, thats your fault, tho you coukd just search up what it means, tho this isnt spam because-
[00:48:59] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gtfo YbsonLuiz
[00:48:59] [Server thread/INFO]: §cirix - Banning YbsonLuiz, IP: 45.77.*.*
§cBanned by: §6irix
[00:49:06] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gmc
[00:49:14] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix im actually discussing something with you
[00:49:29] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /o I just banned him
[00:49:29] [Server thread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [ADMIN] irix §8[§6SrA§8]§6§f: I just banned him
[00:49:36] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix not just mindlessly typing random letters
[00:49:44] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r It is spam because you're trying to argue with me. The bottom line is, you need to remove the tag.
[00:50:08] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix .... Read the rules
[00:50:42] [Server thread/INFO]: FK97 issued server command: /tp irix
[00:51:10] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r No. The rules state that you're entitled to abide by what I ask of you.
[00:51:24] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r And if you don't do that, I will have to ban you from this server. I'm done fighting with you.
[00:51:28] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix thugh your request is unreasonable and unfair?
[00:51:36] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix Though*
[00:51:38] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r It's perfectly reasonable and perfectly fair.
[00:51:48] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tag
[00:51:48] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix in what way?
[00:52:06] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix nobody's complaing, and as long as i dont type into the chat, we wont have a problem
[00:52:09] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r In the way that what I'm requesting can be accomplished through a simple command - "/tag off".
[00:52:17] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r So you have ten minutes.
[00:52:37] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /r If I check back in ten minutes and you're still using the tag, there will be a consequence.
[00:55:11] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tag
[00:55:16] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /tag clearall
[00:55:16] [Server thread/INFO]: irix - Removing all tags
[00:55:19] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gmsp
[00:55:21] [Server thread/INFO]: AsunaYuuki0811 issued server command: /msg irix But if Im not talking.... Nobody'll see it
[01:10:52] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gmc
-- prnt.sc/i9uanaprnt.sc/i9uat8(the post in question was: totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/58362/syntaxables-false-ban ) -- [02:54:27] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:28] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:28] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:28] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:30] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /gmsp
[02:54:32] [Server thread/INFO]: HoverTechV3 issued server command: /spawn
[02:54:32] [Server thread/INFO]: _00 issued server command: /o remember when fastbow used to work
[02:54:32] [Server thread/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] [ADMIN] _00 §8[§bSA§8]§b§f: remember when fastbow used to work
[02:54:35] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: <Dash_The_Dog_YT> wow
[02:54:36] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: <WorldEdit> o.o
[02:54:37] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /expel 100
[02:54:39] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: [SA] <HoverTechV3> bruh
[02:54:41] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:42] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:43] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:43] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:43] [Server thread/INFO]: irix issued server command: /deafen
[02:54:44] [Server thread/INFO]: HoverTechV3 issued server command: /cmdspy
[02:54:45] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: <Dash_The_Dog_YT> only an SCP can do that
[02:54:52] [Server thread/INFO]: _00 issued server command: /stopsound _00
[02:54:52] [Server thread/INFO]: [_00: Stopped all sounds for _00]
[02:54:56] [Async Chat Thread - #5/INFO]: <WorldEdit> lol
[02:55:01] [NanoHttpd Request Processor (#5)/INFO]: [TotalFreedomMod] /107.191.126.229 is downloading latest.log.
he was reportedly spamming /deafen and /expel at spawn - while it may not seem a big problem, it was big enough for 3 separate admins to report it.-- totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/60139/duckvicki?page=1&scrollTo=690347(again, nothing huge but it should never have gotten to this point especially when he has already been warned about taking things out of hand.) Hopefullt that helps to clarify things. How was irix reported for temporarily banning an OP for administrative disrespect in being called ":[21:56:27 INFO]: < frost> fucking verify then faggot" but then criticized for saying "Fuck you." That's quite contradictory; do you punish people for disrespecting admins or not?
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Post by jwmphall on Jul 20, 2018 20:55:42 GMT
Irix did not stop when asked by the OP Where was he asked to stop?
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Post by Premintex on Jul 20, 2018 21:26:00 GMT
Honestly the only sides I see to this is irix’s friends and non friends
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Post by Jayscoob on Jul 20, 2018 21:28:19 GMT
Honestly the only sides I see to this is irix’s friends and non friends This isn't true. I don't even know Irix. I just think it's the people who believe irix was in the wrong or not.
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Post by neroblackcat on Jul 21, 2018 4:46:48 GMT
Honestly the only sides I see to this is irix’s friends and non friends I didn't know I have to be his "friend" to tell the truth. Like seriously, I used to enjoy seeing this person online back in the days of Tatsu Craft. It's not my fault he changed for the worst when he got his senior title on TF.
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Post by Varuct on Jul 21, 2018 6:10:56 GMT
Here's my take on the issue. I'm going to specify that I'm neither Irix's friend nor do I particularly dislike him. I've had minimal interaction with him since I've became an admin and I feel like I can be relatively neutral here when there's obviously 2 sides to this where both believe they are right. Irix's suspension was valid in my opinion. He's had multiple issues with ops and admins alike that have added up to a history of not having great conduct on the server. Some may feel this suspension was unwarranted because it's relatively minor for a long suspension, but the executives took in mind the previous issues that have occurred and decided that he's become a problem. I agree with this line of thought. Here's where I have an issue. Open communication, especially regarding admin suspensions, is important. On July 8th inFAmas97 posted that Irix was removed for misconduct, but we didn't hear a reason really till almost a week later. Being intentionally vague like this is a poor choice. It wasn't something that needed to be hidden. He didn't hack somebody or do something insanely awful that would necessitate being secretive about his suspension. He griefed and he was an ass. Plenty of admins have done this before. Why not just say this. By being secretive about the reasoning and the time limit, it caused the admins to speculate and eventually find out for themselves. Sides were taken and it became drama. When an active senior is suspended, everyone is going to ask questions, no matter what the reason. Keeping him removed for almost 3 weeks is disproportionate to what he did. It was a mistake on part of the Admin officers. I don't know why Irix's case was handled so differently than usual, I suspect it's because he's a bit divisive for a Senior. Some people don't like him because he has a certain way of speaking and communicating. Some people don't like his way of administrating. Regardless, I think people can agree that if there was more open communication, this wouldn't have become such a big issue. I'd like to hear from inFAmas97 and Kash so I can get their opinion on this.
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Post by rrj112 on Jul 21, 2018 6:16:53 GMT
^^^^ I agree with varuct
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Post by Kash on Jul 21, 2018 12:13:31 GMT
Here's my take on the issue. I'm going to specify that I'm neither Irix's friend nor do I particularly dislike him. I've had minimal interaction with him since I've became an admin and I feel like I can be relatively neutral here when there's obviously 2 sides to this where both believe they are right. Irix's suspension was valid in my opinion. He's had multiple issues with ops and admins alike that have added up to a history of not having great conduct on the server. Some may feel this suspension was unwarranted because it's relatively minor for a long suspension, but the executives took in mind the previous issues that have occurred and decided that he's become a problem. I agree with this line of thought. Here's where I have an issue. Open communication, especially regarding admin suspensions, is important. On July 8th inFAmas97 posted that Irix was removed for misconduct, but we didn't hear a reason really till almost a week later. Being intentionally vague like this is a poor choice. It wasn't something that needed to be hidden. He didn't hack somebody or do something insanely awful that would necessitate being secretive about his suspension. He griefed and he was an ass. Plenty of admins have done this before. Why not just say this. By being secretive about the reasoning and the time limit, it caused the admins to speculate and eventually find out for themselves. Sides were taken and it became drama. When an active senior is suspended, everyone is going to ask questions, no matter what the reason. Keeping him removed for almost 3 weeks is disproportionate to what he did. It was a mistake on part of the Admin officers. I don't know why Irix's case was handled so differently than usual, I suspect it's because he's a bit divisive for a Senior. Some people don't like him because he has a certain way of speaking and communicating. Some people don't like his way of administrating. Regardless, I think people can agree that if there was more open communication, this wouldn't have become such a big issue. I'd like to hear from inFAmas97 and Kash so I can get their opinion on this. I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head with everything.
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Post by Drunkle Qrow (BuscusFan) on Jul 21, 2018 15:35:52 GMT
I'm aware that defending irix isn't a popular decision, but I'm going to speak out against this anyway. This entire situation has been a great disservice to the integrity of the admin officers and it has just been blatantly pathetic. I've read the private messages and most of this "update" is frankly untrue, and these are my thoughts. irix wasn't impeding on the op's privacy[1] or griefing (which is explained in the PM). The OP, however, argued with irix about his build, later removed it, which is griefing, and was punished accordingly. This removal clearly isn't valid since it's all dependent on explanation, and the fact that someone can be removed for freely building on the server. Just something isn't liked in a certain spot, that doesn't mean it can be removed. For example, Palestinian flags are above certain builds of mine in the adminworld, but that doesn't give me the okay to remove them because I don't like them there. Most of the reports mentioned above were invalid (and a few were misunderstandings), but that should have been addressed (and a suspension if necessary), rather than making a minor incident the forefront for levying all issues with irix. I'm also not sure what happened, either. inFAmas has told me directly that irix has been making an effort to improve their behavior, so I'm not sure why these reports are an issue again. Regardless, the main issue to me isn't that irix was removed for something insignificant and untrue, it's that he did try to explain why the removal was invalid. Clearly that was all discredited because the issues irix debunked in the PM are still being cited here. It's awe-inspiring to me that an admin, let alone a senior one can be suspended for something that can't even be described as a technicality. If I were to have done this I'd be laughed at. In fact, the conclusion was that irix would be reinstated within the matter of a few days, which has evolved into a multi-week process, where reinstatement is being forced. If you would like to see the aforementioned conversations, irix has said that they'll forward them to whoever asks. I think the longevity of this can be blamed on the vagueness of certain officers, as well as not being aware of how certain rules are defined in the conduct policy. This situation has been handled in nothing but a tyrannical manner, with comments from officers, such as this one are widespread and are an example of why this has been handled so poorly. [1]b. Invading privacy of other players when asked not to. For example, teleporting to other players even though they asked to be left alone however the other players need to well away from the spawn; no privacy should be expected at or near the spawn. If he was building directly on top of an OPs build without permission, yes that it griefing and if it wasn't directly on top of the build, it would have been close enough to be invading privacy. Also he's been acting like a cunt for ages and almost everybody is fucking sick of him, he's had plenty of issues and has continued his behavior and hasn't changed at all, so he's gone. This was a good suspension and was long overdue
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