XenVoltz
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Post by XenVoltz on May 23, 2018 23:52:36 GMT
Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the N.F.L., and other N.F.L. team owners have created a policy to require N.F.L. players and personnel to stand during the national anthem or sit in the locker room or related areas. If players and/or any personnel decides to kneel whilst on the field, they can be fined. You can read into more detail here: www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/sports/nfl-anthem-kneeling.htmlWhat are your thoughts? |
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Post by Video on May 24, 2018 1:40:23 GMT
This is an example of censorship. Suppressing those who are protesting against various topics (like police brutality) is a terrible idea.
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Post by Cowgomooo12 on May 24, 2018 3:27:58 GMT
Private enterprise. Companies may do as they please, provided it is within the bounds of the law.
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Post by ???DaddyIndica on May 24, 2018 3:47:22 GMT
This is an example of censorship. Suppressing those who are protesting against various topics (like police brutality) is a terrible idea. The difference here is, the police today aren't the people who have died for the flag. The anthem, along with the flag it stands for, represents the people who are dying for them to have the right to do that. They wouldn't be 'protesting' if they were fighting the same damn way in Afghanistan and like WW2. |
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Post by mibbzz on May 24, 2018 3:56:20 GMT
Private enterprise. Companies may do as they please, provided it is within the bounds of the law. Publicly funded stadiums though. There's certainly limits to that notion here |
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 24, 2018 3:59:28 GMT
This is an example of censorship. Suppressing those who are protesting against various topics (like police brutality) is a terrible idea. The difference here is, the police today aren't the people who have died for the flag. The anthem, along with the flag it stands for, represents the people who are dying for them to have the right to do that. They wouldn't be 'protesting' if they were fighting the same damn way in Afghanistan and like WW2. Are you implying that if we weren't in Afghanistan then the Taliban would somehow take away our rights? |
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Post by Cowgomooo12 on May 24, 2018 4:03:05 GMT
Private enterprise. Companies may do as they please, provided it is within the bounds of the law. Publicly funded stadiums though. There's certainly limits to that notion here If it were up to me, fucking stadiums would not be funded. It all comes down to politics and money. That's all that matters. Money and politics. |
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Post by XenVoltz on May 24, 2018 4:17:45 GMT
This is an example of censorship. Suppressing those who are protesting against various topics (like police brutality) is a terrible idea. The difference here is, the police today aren't the people who have died for the flag. The anthem, along with the flag it stands for, represents the people who are dying for them to have the right to do that. They wouldn't be 'protesting' if they were fighting the same damn way in Afghanistan and like WW2. But police have died for the flag? |
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Post by Darth on May 24, 2018 10:41:58 GMT
The difference here is, the police today aren't the people who have died for the flag. The anthem, along with the flag it stands for, represents the people who are dying for them to have the right to do that. They wouldn't be 'protesting' if they were fighting the same damn way in Afghanistan and like WW2. But police have died for the flag? Some crime scene or car chase isn't the same as a soldier training for years, flying across the Earth, and getting killed by an explosion or something like that. Although I still take both of those losses of life the same, and I do know that some police officers have been in the force longer than many soldiers. Also I think it has something to do with public perception. We hear about corrupt and abusive police officers all the time, but most of us view soldiers as honorable people who put others first (which they are, most of the time). |
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Post by XenVoltz on May 24, 2018 13:20:55 GMT
But police have died for the flag? Some crime scene or car chase isn't the same as a soldier training for years, flying across the Earth, and getting killed by an explosion or something like that. Although I still take both of those losses of life the same, and I do know that some police officers have been in the force longer than many soldiers. Also I think it has something to do with public perception. We hear about corrupt and abusive police officers all the time, but most of us view soldiers as honorable people who put others first (which they are, most of the time). ”some crime scene or car chase” isn’t all police officers do. They can have jobs that can be as equal to the danger some soldiers have as well. They raid building full of people that have guns, go into buildings where there is an active shooter, etc. They may not encounter as many dangerous events as a soldier but they still have a dangerous job that could cost them their lives. |
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Post by StevenNL2000 on May 24, 2018 16:46:46 GMT
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Post by XenVoltz on May 24, 2018 22:22:47 GMT
I saw this and I’m hoping that other team owners who didn’t agree with the policy follow in the same footsteps |
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Post by pj on May 29, 2018 0:06:45 GMT
Private enterprise. Companies may do as they please, provided it is within the bounds of the law. Publicly funded stadiums though. There's certainly limits to that notion here True. It's an interesting point, but I don't think it has any repurcussions legally. A lot of what the players are protesting for has merit, but it's bad business for the NFL. They're alienating a group of their fanbase when they allow this. It just makes good business sense. |
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