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Post by StevenNL2000 on Dec 9, 2017 23:31:37 GMT
@zegandhi, Wild1145, ConnorIt looks like I've written myself into a corner. My "noble" target of having an admin online 24/7 stems from the apparent wish that is currently keeping applications open, but it has become an excuse not to change anything. By supporting that, I'm unintentionally implying that I don't want radical changes, but that's not the case. I stand by the concept of only opening applications based on the current needs of the admin team, or alternatively, hand-picking. As Zekurt said, those options are not all that different, so I would say that we are actually already halfway a final solution. |
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Post by Polska ?ywno?? on Dec 10, 2017 2:11:49 GMT
Then its probably safe to say that by the huge number of vouches, there is no way that this is backing down.
After reading some of the stuff here by other admins, I think its official. (Not an exec so I can't make it happen)
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Post by Connor on Dec 10, 2017 3:28:26 GMT
Then its probably safe to say that by the huge number of vouches, there is no way that this is backing down. After reading some of the stuff here by other admins, I think its official. (Not an exec so I can't make it happen) Nothing's 'official' until it happens but these thoughts are sparking conversations among the execs. We'll keep you posted once we decide. All in due time. |
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Post by Jacob474747 on Dec 10, 2017 6:58:16 GMT
Polska ?ywno??, too be honest with the AdminPAS, I agree 100% Before I went inactive for school, I noticed that every single time a person with a CHANCE of being accepted get's a request placed on them by 95% Telnet Admins, I actually never TPaSed anyone before I went inactive for a bit but I'm planning to come back!
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Post by Wild1145 on Dec 10, 2017 9:27:10 GMT
Then its probably safe to say that by the huge number of vouches, there is no way that this is backing down. After reading some of the stuff here by other admins, I think its official. (Not an exec so I can't make it happen) Nothing's 'official' until it happens but these thoughts are sparking conversations among the execs. We'll keep you posted once we decide. All in due time. I dont remember this server changing to a "Well if we like it we might role it out" last I checked there was a fairly sizeable chunk of admins that would chime in, and the decision was made from the wider community and not just a handful of admins. If that is indeed what has been happening it would certainly explain why things have changed and nobody has been aware or with massive objections... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 9:49:53 GMT
Then its probably safe to say that by the huge number of vouches, there is no way that this is backing down. After reading some of the stuff here by other admins, I think its official. (Not an exec so I can't make it happen) Nothing's 'official' until it happens but these thoughts are sparking conversations among the execs. We'll keep you posted once we decide. All in due time. Which is just a more subtle way of saying our votes don't mean anything |
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Post by Drunkle Qrow (BuscusFan) on Dec 10, 2017 10:59:29 GMT
Then its probably safe to say that by the huge number of vouches, there is no way that this is backing down. After reading some of the stuff here by other admins, I think its official. (Not an exec so I can't make it happen) Nothing's 'official' until it happens but these thoughts are sparking conversations among the execs. We'll keep you posted once we decide. All in due time. Very few if any of the execs even play on the server anymore. Why should their vote mean more when, for the most part, it's the admins that actually play on the server that have to deal with the outcome and repercussion of whatever system is implemented? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 11:09:52 GMT
Nothing's 'official' until it happens but these thoughts are sparking conversations among the execs. We'll keep you posted once we decide. All in due time. Very few if any of the execs even play on the server anymore. Why should their vote mean more when, for the most part, it's the admins that actually play on the server that have to deal with the outcome and repercussion of whatever system is implemented? And then there's the players that aren't admin that have to constantly deal with the same issues, while receiving literally zero respect when they voice their opinion on the matter. And in my opinion it affects them the most, often resulting in them just leaving. |
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Post by Drunkle Qrow (BuscusFan) on Dec 10, 2017 11:13:37 GMT
Very few if any of the execs even play on the server anymore. Why should their vote mean more when, for the most part, it's the admins that actually play on the server that have to deal with the outcome and repercussion of whatever system is implemented? And then there's the players that aren't admin that have to constantly deal with the same issues, while receiving literally zero respect when they voice their opinion on the matter. And in my opinion it affects them the most, often resulting in them just leaving. Exactly, the admins and OPs who actually play on the server and are directly affected should have the highest voting priority, not the execs who, let's face it, only deal with the repercussions when they're called in by admins |
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Post by Mike on Dec 10, 2017 11:25:25 GMT
I agree there's a problem with *PAS on this server. We had a policy where Telnets could only make 1 TPAS, and you get an extra one when you get promoted to Clan. Even with this, it's still pretty bad.
I would just freeze the system until there's a better alternatives. Yes, it should be open to a select few people, but I don't know who that would be - maybe people with red forum tags. I've never *PASed a single person yet; people who I recommend usually get accepted through the normal process.
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Post by je isnt hapi on Dec 10, 2017 11:30:00 GMT
if the admin acceptance policy was a far more rigorous aka, not everyone and their mother was being accepted then i feel this would not be necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 11:39:50 GMT
if the admin acceptance policy was a far more rigorous aka, not everyone and their mother was being accepted then i feel this would not be necessary. We've added more and more restrictions to applications over time and they've really done nothing. The issue is far worse than when we had very little restrictions, if any at all. Also, it doesn't matter how hard admin applications are when any telnet+ can make anyone admin. The issue is caused by more than just a lax application process, and more than just restrictions are needed. |
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Post by Drunkle Qrow (BuscusFan) on Dec 10, 2017 12:05:59 GMT
if the admin acceptance policy was a far more rigorous aka, not everyone and their mother was being accepted then i feel this would not be necessary. We've added more and more restrictions to applications over time and they've really done nothing. The issue is far worse than when we had very little restrictions, if any at all. Also, it doesn't matter how hard admin applications when any admin telnet+ can make anyone admin. The issue is caused by more than just a lax application process, more than just restrictions are needed. It's like nobody actually read the reply i made on this exact problem |
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Post by je isnt hapi on Dec 10, 2017 12:14:25 GMT
if the admin acceptance policy was a far more rigorous aka, not everyone and their mother was being accepted then i feel this would not be necessary. We've added more and more restrictions to applications over time and they've really done nothing. The issue is far worse than when we had very little restrictions, if any at all. Also, it doesn't matter how hard admin applications are when any telnet+ can make anyone admin. The issue is caused by more than just a lax application process, and more than just restrictions are needed. well i assume that bc its relatively easy to be accepted, you get admins that vouch for everyone which screws it up further |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 12:26:28 GMT
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