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Post by Super on Sept 3, 2017 22:47:04 GMT
1. Approx date and time you suspended the admin. 3:40 PM, September 3rd (Pacific Time)2. Why you suspended the admin - include relevant log entries Pinchyy and Vctr_ have witnessed the situation and have ruled that Hitzz's removal of luuk was invalid, and they wanted a senior to handle this. [13:20:32] [Server thread/INFO]: [BukkitTelnet] HitzzForSenior:98.214.199.46 issued command saconfig remove luukreadminn3. Did you attempt to correct the admin before suspending him/her to include a short time removal (e.g. 10 mins)? No4. Did you notify the admin that you removed them from and why? No5. If you answered no to either 3 or 4, please explain. Except in extreme case such as the admin going rogue, I would expect yes answers for both. I wasn't on the server to witness it directly at the time, and Hitzz removed herself after this situation
Note: This is not an indefinite suspension. If it is discovered that the reason for luuk's removal is valid, this suspension will be lifted.
Suspension is now indefinite due to other recent unprofessionalism (Images from Pinchyy):
Suspension is temporary again per investigation of luuk.
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Post by Wild1145 on Sept 3, 2017 22:50:39 GMT
Was the person that (s)he removed re-added later in the logs or not?
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Post by Godzilla on Sept 3, 2017 22:51:48 GMT
Was the person that (s)he removed re-added later in the logs or not? yes
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Post by Wild1145 on Sept 3, 2017 23:19:06 GMT
Was the person that (s)he removed re-added later in the logs or not? yes Did the person that removed the admin re-add them or someone else?
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Post by Super on Sept 3, 2017 23:19:50 GMT
Did the person that removed the admin re-add them or someone else? Someone else, Hitzz removed herself after this whole situation
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Post by Wild1145 on Sept 3, 2017 23:21:35 GMT
Did the person that removed the admin re-add them or someone else? Someone else, Hitzz removed herself after this whole situation Okay, so that rules trolling out. Has anyone asked them why they removed the admin?
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Post by Super on Sept 3, 2017 23:22:37 GMT
Someone else, Hitzz removed herself after this whole situation Okay, so that rules trolling out. Has anyone asked them why they removed the admin? I'm not sure. From what I heard, Hitzz ditched us right after this whole thing unfolded.
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Post by Wild1145 on Sept 3, 2017 23:24:22 GMT
Okay, so that rules trolling out. Has anyone asked them why they removed the admin? I'm not sure. From what I heard, Hitzz ditched us right after this whole thing unfolded. So someone needs to find out the Why behind the removal, before we all just assume its rogue behaviour... There could very well have been a good reason behind the removal...
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Post by Wild1145 on Sept 3, 2017 23:44:55 GMT
Suspension is now indefinite due to other recent unprofessionalism (Images from Pinchyy): Yes, you have two examples of immaturity, one of which isnt really even an issue / against the conduct rules? Im inclined to think you have an ulterior motive to having this user removed or if not you, Pinchyy maybe does... Because a perm removal of someone for two actions that arent even considered rogue...
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Post by Super on Sept 3, 2017 23:54:15 GMT
Suspension is now indefinite due to other recent unprofessionalism (Images from Pinchyy): Yes, you have two examples of immaturity, one of which isnt really even an issue / against the conduct rules? Im inclined to think you have an ulterior motive to having this user removed or if not you, Pinchyy maybe does... Because a perm removal of someone for two actions that arent even considered rogue... I don't really have anything against Hitzz, we've been cool with each other in the past but the buffonery that Pinchy has pointed out lately isn't acceptable.
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Post by rrj112 on Sept 3, 2017 23:57:40 GMT
We need evidence before removing admins it was wrong of hitzz to remove him but if he was really griefing she did the right thing so find out first before removing
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Post by Wild1145 on Sept 4, 2017 18:01:39 GMT
Yes, you have two examples of immaturity, one of which isnt really even an issue / against the conduct rules? Im inclined to think you have an ulterior motive to having this user removed or if not you, Pinchyy maybe does... Because a perm removal of someone for two actions that arent even considered rogue... I don't really have anything against Hitzz, we've been cool with each other in the past but the buffonery that Pinchy has pointed out lately isn't acceptable. You make it sound like he went total rogue. Its minor buffoonery, and we've allowed admins to get away with FAR worse. Just sit them down and have one of these "Quiet Chats" everyone raves on about.
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Post by Super on Sept 4, 2017 21:01:13 GMT
After the investigations over luuk, Hitzz has been unsuspended since his removal of luuk has been confirmed to be valid. Luuk will be suspended.
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Post by inFAmas97 on Sept 4, 2017 22:30:37 GMT
When suspending someone please be sure to look into the situation, at least enough to be reasonably certain a removal is justified to make sure any premature actions can be avoided.
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