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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 15:44:33 GMT
1. Approx date and time you suspended the admin.
14th july, 2017 - 5:30 PM CET
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2. Why you suspended the admin - include relevant log entries
Bullying and disobeying orders
(+ might have attempted to DDos me after I banned him. Lost connection right after the incident, but as I do not have sufficient proof, I cannot say for sure.)
3. Did you attempt to correct the admin before suspending him/her
Yes, and so did others
4. Did you notify the admin that you removed them from and why?
Yes, I did.
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Post by markbyron on Jul 14, 2017 16:21:53 GMT
I removed him from forum status. He also posted a message to resign and so he's out of status for at least a month. I'l leave to StevenNL2000 or Windows to approve perm ban (server and/or forum) after they review any logs, etc. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 14, 2017 16:22:00 GMT
I'd object simply because this has become the norm... Most the admins online disobey orders and just ignore what the more senior admins say... As for bullying, again fairly common unfortunately...
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Post by markbyron on Jul 14, 2017 16:23:34 GMT
Wild1145, he's resigned at this point. The question now will be whether or not he warrants a perm ban.
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 14, 2017 17:58:06 GMT
markbyron standing by my original point. There is fuck all respect for other admins and abuse appears to be quite common. I'd say a permban would be exceptional overkill unless you plan to permban most the admins.
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jul 14, 2017 20:23:18 GMT
So it starts with Cyro joining and being angry because he was demoted. He makes some immature comments in the adminchat, then this happens:[11:16:09] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tp DUFC_Liam
[11:16:11] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:16:43] [Server thread/INFO]: DUFC_Liam issued server command: /o cyro1999, You are still held at higher standarts than the OPs so do not TP without permission
[11:16:49] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:16:50] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:16:51] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:16:53] [Server thread/INFO]: DUFC_Liam issued server command: /spawn cyro1999
[11:16:55] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:16:56] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:16:58] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:17:00] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:17:00] [Server thread/INFO]: DUFC_Liam issued server command: /o _flippy
[11:17:01] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:17:16] [Server thread/INFO]: DUFC_Liam issued server command: /o cyro1999 is spam TP'ing too me and he should be helt ad higher standards than OPs
[11:17:35] [Server thread/INFO]: marcocorriero issued server command: /o DUFC_Liam
[11:17:38] [Server thread/INFO]: DUFC_Liam issued server command: /smite cyro1999
[11:17:40] [Server thread/INFO]: marcocorriero issued server command: /o ignore it, is not much
[11:17:44] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tp liam
[11:17:50] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /tpo DUFC_Liam
[11:18:31] [Server thread/INFO]: DUFC_Liam issued server command: /smite cyro1999 Can you stop... You should be an example to this immature follow the admin conducy policy.
[11:18:44] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /gtfo liam stop abusing my rights
[11:18:52] [Server thread/INFO]: marcocorriero issued server command: /gtfo cyro1999 better you stop
[11:18:58] [Server thread/INFO]: marcocorriero issued server command: /o cyro
[11:19:01] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /o what
[11:19:04] [Server thread/INFO]: marcocorriero issued server command: /o next time ill remove you
[11:19:08] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /o do it faggot
[11:19:10] [Server thread/INFO]: marcocorriero issued server command: /o and ask a senior to suspend you.
[11:19:11] [Server thread/INFO]: cyro1999 issued server command: /gtfo marco do it
[11:19:19] [Server thread/INFO]: [BukkitTelnet] marcocorriero:151.45.52.28 issued command saconfig remove cyro
[11:21:02] [Server thread/INFO]: miwojedk issued server command: /glist ban cyro1999
[11:33:04] [Server thread/INFO]: _flippy issued server command: /glist unban cyro1999
Ignoring the fact that Liam and Marco are both handling the issue in a questionable way, I see Cyro overstepping the boundaries, but no real rogue actions. I can see why you would want to permban him, but it's not quite the worst a suspended admin has done.
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 14, 2017 20:25:20 GMT
Nope, I've seen far worse without any action.
The fact though that TWO seniors fucking banned him and didnt realise that he could just log straight back in, amazes me. You do not just ban admins, thats the entire point of the policies we have in place.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 21:29:24 GMT
I'm going to side with Wild, I would consider this just general buffoonery rather than something that would warrant a permban but rather a warning. Like Wild said, there has been much more that others have done in the past and gotten nothing.
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Post by Mike on Jul 14, 2017 22:12:31 GMT
I agree with Brehme and Wild - there's no need for a permban, also considering Liam and Marco didn't handle the situation too well. Nope, I've seen far worse without any action. The fact though that TWO seniors fucking banned him and didnt realise that he could just log straight back in, amazes me. You do not just ban admins, thats the entire point of the policies we have in place. He actually got removed first so he couldn't rejoin: [11:19:19] [Server thread/INFO]: [BukkitTelnet] marcocorriero:151.45.52.28 issued command saconfig remove cyro[11:21:02] [Server thread/INFO]: miwojedk issued server command: /glist ban cyro1999 [11:33:04] [Server thread/INFO]: _flippy issued server command: /glist unban |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 14, 2017 22:34:23 GMT
I agree with Brehme and Wild - there's no need for a permban, also considering Liam and Marco didn't handle the situation too well. Nope, I've seen far worse without any action. The fact though that TWO seniors fucking banned him and didnt realise that he could just log straight back in, amazes me. You do not just ban admins, thats the entire point of the policies we have in place. He actually got removed first so he couldn't rejoin: [11:19:19] [Server thread/INFO]: [BukkitTelnet] marcocorriero:151.45.52.28 issued command saconfig remove cyro[11:21:02] [Server thread/INFO]: miwojedk issued server command: /glist ban cyro1999 [11:33:04] [Server thread/INFO]: _flippy issued server command: /glist unban I'd like Marco to explain then why he is removing admins when he really shouldnt be... |
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Post by markbyron on Jul 14, 2017 22:58:56 GMT
the execs and owner have the information in PM and can reference here as well to make any final decisions or further investigation. At this point, there is no perm ban but the individual did resign.
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