Post by Zaid on Aug 6, 2020 3:42:27 GMT
Aug 5, 2020 20:10:20 GMT Zaid said:
Way more than speculation at this point. Don't get me wrong, Lebanon has one of the most corrupt governments in the area, and this could've been completely prevented, but I genuinely believe that Israel was behind the actual explosion. Proofs so far:1- The Tweet by Netanyahu only hours before the explosions saying that they struck Hezbollah's source (linked in the OP).
2- A Tweet by IDF spokesman Avichay last year clearly labelling this exact port as an IDF target.
3- A Israeli politician and former Knesset member celebrates the explosion and calls it a "fireworks show" and a "Jewish holiday"
4- A video clearly shows the sound of an aircraft seconds before the second explosion:
http://instagr.am/p/CDhGNI9J9IO
5- A second video shows citizens pointing up to the sky before the second explosion.
http://instagr.am/p/CDhLNERA06e
Say what you will, call it a big coincidence. I am sure Israel had a hand in this, one way or another, and Hezbollah knows this. They just don't want to start another war while Lebanon's economy is already in the gutter and another offensive is about to start in Idlib.
No, everything you posted is purely speculation at best, and blatant misinformation at worst.
The tweet by Netanyahu was talking about strikes the day earlier in Syria. This was against a small group of individuals, 4, attempting to plant explosives alongside the border fence Israel has erected in the Golan Heights.
Can't speak on this without having the source of it and not a random picture.
Who gives a flying fuck about a former Knesset member. Him celebrating it makes him an absolute cunt, it doesn't mean the Israeli government, which he isn't even a part of anymore, was behind it.
There has been no legitimate videos showing an airplane. The area was in flames for close to half an hour before the ammonium nitrate detonated, and there was dozens of people filming this. No videos posted online show an aircraft, a few do show what's very clearly a bird though. Surprised you didn't include that one considering how much it's getting passed around.
There was fireworks shooting from the blast site shortly before the explosion, and that's almost certainly what they're pointing at, before they then react to the main detonation.
Overall, you have no evidence and you're basing this theory entirely on nothing. Israel wasn't behind this, and even if they had been it wouldn't have been an aircraft that was used which your theory apparently revolves around.
I'd implore you to actually look into the issue a bit more before spreading blatant misinformation. This isn't about your opinion, it's about a factual situation and you are incorrect.
Avichay didn't even hint at the fact that this exact port was a target, he clearly stated it.
The Tweet reads "...Beirut's port is used as a means of transporting weaponry from Iran to Hezbollah..." and the image reads "Target: Port of Beirut"
I didn't show the bird one because, as you clearly said, that was a bird. There are, however, dozens of videos of people recording the situation commenting "there are sounds of aircrafts."
There's no misinformation here and you're incorrect in labeling it a "factual situation." Do you have access to the results of the investigations regarding this incident? If not, then your take is as legitimate as mine. Israel has committed war crimes in the past and has done quite literally the same thing on a smaller scale in Gaza. Whenever this is brought up, however, it's always either "Nooooo you're a conspiracy theorist" or my personal favorite "antisemite!!" Haven't you said in the past that you have friends in the Middle East? Ask them for their thoughts. I've talked to people whose entire extended families are in and around Beirut, and they all share the same sentiment: one way or another, whether by airstrike or other means of sabotage, there was Israeli involvement in here.
I don't know why this is so hard to accept. If a FTO repeatedly threatened a specific weaponry site in the US, tweeted an ominous message, then hours later the place blows up, I wouldn't call assumptions that the FTO had something to do with it "blatant misinformation."
Now, as much as I believe the Zionist occupation is a bloodthirsty, devilish regime, I don't believe they intended for this to happen. What I think (again, think, because there hasn't been a full investigation yet) is that Israel tried taking out a specific weapon cache within the port, unaware of the sheer amount of explosives stored nearby. The original fire could've been caused by an small airstrike or rocket. There is no footage to negate this an, in fact, manyt from Beirut assumed that the fire was the result of an airstrike. Israel, wouldn't have expected that thousands of tonnes of explosive material was stored nearby. Israel, in the last month, has been targeting similar targets in Syria, so it wound't be surprising if they thought they could get away with a small show of strength in Lebanon.
Either way, I may be completely wrong, but you cannot assert that till the full details are shown after an investigation.
Edit:
Only 5 days ago: "If [Hezbollah] tries perpetrating another attack, we will see an unusual response from the IDF against [the organization] and the country of Lebanon," the official said. From the article"Defense Minister Benny Gantz has instructed the IDF to bomb Lebanese infrastructure if Hezbollah harms Israeli soldiers or civilians." Source
Also, Israel has been blowing up sites in Iran for the past few weeks, including civillian areas. Israel has been trying to start a war before the elections for a while now.
Additional sources:
www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-behind-attacks-irans-nuclear-facilities
www.vox.com/2020/7/17/21325985/iran-israel-explosion-natanz-nuclear-missile
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/15/has-israel-been-sabotaging-iran-heres-what-we-know/
Trump was briefed on the incident as an attack: thehill.com/homenews/administration/510772-meadows-defends-trumps-description-of-beirut-explosion-as-an-attack
But yeah, I'm "spreading misinformation"