Darth
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Post by Darth on Jul 10, 2020 18:36:26 GMT
I agree with the idea that making huge changes to the server all at once is not such a good idea. I think that changes should be more gradual. I know in the past it has been proposed to flat out remove the adminworld, and I remember Seth once made it view-only and people got on his ass because of it, so I'm suggesting a more minor change.
I suggest that OPs be allowed to visit the adminworld, but only to view it and without building/world edit permissions. It's obviously possible since an identical system exists in the Master Builder world. I think that allowing OPs to visit is a good way to help normal players connect more with admins. If you disagree, please explain yourself.
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Wild1145
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 10, 2020 18:38:23 GMT
I'm 50/50 myself. As currently an OP, I love the idea, it sounds really cool to be able to see what the admins have built, however as an inactive senior who built stuff in admin world, the last thing I wanted was for people to be bugging me and getting in the way when I'm there to relax for a bit...
I think personally unless OPs' were in spectator mode perhaps in that world then I'd be against this, it needs to be non-intrusive to admins if it's done basically.
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Post by _Windows on Jul 10, 2020 18:48:08 GMT
One problem I have with this is potential exploits. All it would take is one person to find one way to cause edits to happen in AW and there WILL be griefing.
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lyicx
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Post by lyicx on Jul 10, 2020 18:55:28 GMT
i mean, like wild said if they were in spectator mode i wouldn't mind it much
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fleshy_
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Post by fleshy_ on Jul 10, 2020 18:56:59 GMT
Yes but please make them spectator only
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Post by fionn on Jul 10, 2020 18:57:59 GMT
I'm all for it if we do spectator and what we did for MBW.
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Post by elmon on Jul 10, 2020 19:11:20 GMT
I object if the only way to do it is through spectator mode because it's easily exploitable. I like the concept though
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Darth
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Post by Darth on Jul 10, 2020 19:24:26 GMT
One problem I have with this is potential exploits. All it would take is one person to find one way to cause edits to happen in AW and there WILL be griefing. Perhaps it would be easier to make a list of commands people can do in adminworld instead of a list of things you can't? |
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Post by Darth on Jul 10, 2020 22:24:26 GMT
I'm 50/50 myself. As currently an OP, I love the idea, it sounds really cool to be able to see what the admins have built, however as an inactive senior who built stuff in admin world, the last thing I wanted was for people to be bugging me and getting in the way when I'm there to relax for a bit... I think personally unless OPs' were in spectator mode perhaps in that world then I'd be against this, it needs to be non-intrusive to admins if it's done basically. I don't think that's necessary or fair. OPs don't have a place they can go where nobody can disturb them, except if they disable /tptoggle. Admins can also /tptoggle, problem solved. If a player somehow bypasses that or finds a way around it, punish them as needed. I don't think it's fair that admins can have a higher expectation of privacy than OPs. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 10, 2020 22:40:28 GMT
I'm 50/50 myself. As currently an OP, I love the idea, it sounds really cool to be able to see what the admins have built, however as an inactive senior who built stuff in admin world, the last thing I wanted was for people to be bugging me and getting in the way when I'm there to relax for a bit... I think personally unless OPs' were in spectator mode perhaps in that world then I'd be against this, it needs to be non-intrusive to admins if it's done basically. I don't think that's necessary or fair. OPs don't have a place they can go where nobody can disturb them, except if they disable /tptoggle. Admins can also /tptoggle, problem solved. If a player somehow bypasses that or finds a way around it, punish them as needed. I don't think it's fair that admins can have a higher expectation of privacy than OPs. True, and as I say, it's why I'm 50/50 on this because I do see both sides. Adminworld has always been a privilege for admins where they can have somewhere to play without being bothered by OP's when there are other admins online, and I think if we remove that environments admins will just go and play on other servers to relax more so than they do now, which can reduce the overall quality of administrating. I don't know how it works for the MB World (Tbh the times I've been on I never knew it was even a thing) so can't comment as to if what we have at the moment is a good idea, but yeah, that's why I have my opinion. |
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Post by zekurt on Jul 10, 2020 22:41:34 GMT
I really really hate the objection of the admin world being purposed as a segregation from ops. That is just absurd to me.
Vouch.
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Post by Alco RS11 on Jul 14, 2020 6:17:45 GMT
I Vouch. As long as OPs are non-intrusive (spectator or equivalent) and can't edit anything, I see no issue with this.
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prince
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Post by prince on Jul 14, 2020 7:36:56 GMT
was actually planning on making this suggestion again after my initial one got denied.
Vouch - If a player bugs you while you build, just tell them off, like we always do as per Section 3b.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 15:44:21 GMT
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