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Post by dog on Jul 23, 2020 18:44:34 GMT
by the forum guideline any form of overposting (posting too much) no matter what board (they aren't specific on that) you're subject to a power post sanction What is the forums definition of "to much"? He has not posted to much to warrant even a warning on the suggestions board. I'm not only talking about suggestions which I now realised I haven't noted, But he has been posting too much in general, It doesn't only affect one board but even if you post at different boards too many times it's still power posting
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Post by burger on Jul 23, 2020 18:49:03 GMT
What is the forums definition of "to much"? He has not posted to much to warrant even a warning on the suggestions board. I'm not only talking about suggestions which I now realised I haven't noted, But he has been posting too much in general, It doesn't only affect one board but even if you post at different boards too many times it's still power posting Okay? I don't understand your point. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he should be punished. Posting a large number of useless messages may warrant something but just posting in general does not. That's like saying "You talk to much. And even though what you say could benefit people and you are not trying to be annoying, you are, and therefore should be punished.
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Post by dog on Jul 23, 2020 18:53:45 GMT
I'm not only talking about suggestions which I now realised I haven't noted, But he has been posting too much in general, It doesn't only affect one board but even if you post at different boards too many times it's still power posting Okay? I don't understand your point. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he should be punished. Posting a large number of useless messages may warrant something but just posting in general does not. That's like saying "You talk to much. And even though what you say could benefit people and you are not trying to be annoying, you are, and therefore should be punished. "2. Power-Posting. Power-posting is over-posting or posting empty, non-sensical, or other useless messages/polls. Such posts are subject to being moved to spam boards or deleted. Posting such messages in the spam sections can still be a violation - if a moderator advises you that's the case, stop it. If you like a post, use the like button as opposed to creating a one word reply and avoid one word response messages that don't add anything (e.g. ok, lol, xD, etc.)." The guidelines say themselves that power-posting isn't only posting random things, it's also over-posting which is posting too much, There's a difference between talking too much and breaking the forum guidelines
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Post by burger on Jul 23, 2020 19:02:09 GMT
Okay? I don't understand your point. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he should be punished. Posting a large number of useless messages may warrant something but just posting in general does not. That's like saying "You talk to much. And even though what you say could benefit people and you are not trying to be annoying, you are, and therefore should be punished. "2. Power-Posting. Power-posting is over-posting or posting empty, non-sensical, or other useless messages/polls. Such posts are subject to being moved to spam boards or deleted. Posting such messages in the spam sections can still be a violation - if a moderator advises you that's the case, stop it. If you like a post, use the like button as opposed to creating a one word reply and avoid one word response messages that don't add anything (e.g. ok, lol, xD, etc.)." The guidelines say themselves that power-posting isn't only posting random things, it's also over-posting which is posting too much, There's a difference between talking too much and breaking the forum guidelines So you think that ashaz posts to much? If that is the case then I am happy to tell you that myself and many others also post 150+ messages in a months timespan as well. You don't seem to pointing that out which leads me to believe that you only care about ashaz's post count becuase he posts useless things. That loops us back to my original statement: He doesn't post enough in general to warrant any kind of warning or punishment.
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Post by XenVoltz on Jul 23, 2020 19:03:02 GMT
Okay? I don't understand your point. Just because he posts a lot doesn't mean he should be punished. Posting a large number of useless messages may warrant something but just posting in general does not. That's like saying "You talk to much. And even though what you say could benefit people and you are not trying to be annoying, you are, and therefore should be punished. "2. Power-Posting. Power-posting is over-posting or posting empty, non-sensical, or other useless messages/polls. Such posts are subject to being moved to spam boards or deleted. Posting such messages in the spam sections can still be a violation - if a moderator advises you that's the case, stop it. If you like a post, use the like button as opposed to creating a one word reply and avoid one word response messages that don't add anything (e.g. ok, lol, xD, etc.)." The guidelines say themselves that power-posting isn't only posting random things, it's also over-posting which is posting too much, There's a difference between talking too much and breaking the forum guidelines You completely disregarded the second part of that sentence. "Power-posting is over-posting or posting empty, non-sensical, or other useless messages/polls." When it is talking about over-posting, it is refering to "non-sensical, or other useless messages/polls."
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Post by SupItsDillon on Jul 23, 2020 19:15:35 GMT
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Post by speed on Jul 23, 2020 19:16:56 GMT
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Post by miwo on Jul 23, 2020 19:19:02 GMT
And that thread is nothing more than fancy words. What's the drama here?
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Post by AshazTGA on Jul 23, 2020 19:46:15 GMT
StevenNL2000 since you can self request, can you just put this through? but don't count it as a self request because then it gives me the chance to appeal and admins wouldn't like that
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Post by Darth on Jul 23, 2020 19:48:48 GMT
StevenNL2000 since you can self request, can you just put this through? but don't count it as a self request This is contradictory. What do you mean? because then it gives me the chance to appeal and admins wouldn't like that That isn't what we want at all. I'd love for you to show change and appeal when you're ready. But as of right now, I do not believe you are. It's not that we don't want you, but you have said before you have an addictive relationship with the server (unhealthy obsession). I think you should use the time off the server to find yourself.
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Post by elmon on Jul 23, 2020 20:22:51 GMT
StevenNL2000 since you can self request, can you just put this through? but don't count it as a self request because then it gives me the chance to appeal and admins wouldn't like that Steven has said multiple times he likes things to be left for a little bit because there is no reason to rush. You should really take the advice he gave you on a thread the other day where he told you to sit on your posts for a couple hours to avoid your impulsive posting problem.
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Post by Feueristic on Jul 23, 2020 20:24:05 GMT
Vouch. Everyone who is using the argument of either "admins do this as well" and/or "he posted 180 posts in so little time" does not see how a sanction works. Just my opinion. I vouch. If you look at the context of your posts that you said are "jokes," you can see that they are less of jokes and more of insults. There is a difference between personal attacks and regular jokes. While I do think 180 constructive posts in a month is fine, your posts aren't really helpful a lot of the time. You should have realized that not every post you make is helping out and cut down on posting. Surprisingly, Dr Pee has put this wonderfully well. I really think you should take the time to reconsider what you want to say and what you would say on the forums, as seen with your behavior - it is almost an impulsive statement almost every time and you wish that you would retract it. You aren't the type of person to actually insult people, but try to think twice what you are going to say, how it may come off as rude, insensitive or irrelevant as those has been the case for so many of your posts. I'll Pee waiting for you once you can really better yourself in wording responses and thinking twice for what you do.
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Post by mattlawn on Jul 23, 2020 20:49:38 GMT
vouch
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Post by johnyo on Jul 23, 2020 22:22:53 GMT
Only in regards to the powerposting in Spam and Drama and comments/evidence posted about it.: Objection.
I don't think we should hold him to a standard, when countless admins are not held to that same standard.
In general I agree that 'just because others are doing it, doesn't mean you can'.
-However, when you have an incredible amount of similar posts by an incredible amount have admins (including the owner, exec' and seniors), I don't think it's reasonable/fair to bring up that statement, and then say post another sanction request for those people. (See what XenVoltz said: 'The fact that I should have to file a forum sanction request for everyone that has broken the forum rules on those threads is absurd')
If you see an incredible amount of people who make posts with 1 word in S&D and they don't get a warning, it's only fair that others will think they are allowed to do the same. Especially when the people doing it are seniors, exec's and the owner.
There's a thread S&D where a whole bunch of admins posted random nonsense/power posts, but when Ashaz did the same, he got told to stop.
-I understand admins being more inclined to warn Ashaz due to his 'past history of powerposting', and that they want to help him (and are not out to get him). However, I also understand that it could be hard for Ashaz to take these warnings to heart when there are so many admins who do the same, especially when admins are meant to be held to a higher standard.
We shouldn't/can't just ban/warn him for powerposting and hope/expect that he comes back reformed. -I think it would be much more helpful and meaningful to him if we all started by setting a proper example, and acted the way we want him to.
-------------------------- To my knowledge, it's been widely accepted for many years that you can power post in S&D, depsite the: 'Posting such messages in the spam sections can still be a violation - if a moderator advises you that's the case, stop it.' line in the rules. I think it's about time the rules were changed to reflect this, or the rule is enforced more properly/fairly to everyone if we don't want powerposts in S&D. -------------------------
Notes: Please note what I said above is only in regards to comments/evidence against him for power posting in S&D. -I do not think that his posts in S&D should be held against him (for reasons I've stated above), and am objecting for that reason. -I think we should all follow the rule about power-posting in S&D if we want him to do the same (or update that rule).
I am also not saying that he is perfectly in the clear and 'innocent'. I.e As pointed out by Steven, he has a habit of impulsively posting suggestions only to revoke them a short amount of time later, and he really needs to work on this and follow the advice that Steven gave him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 22:33:29 GMT
I'm going to remove the S&D section of the powerposting rule because it doesn't effect post count and is supposed to have spam in it, however there are multiple other instances pointed out where he power posts.
So I'm still going to Vouch
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