prince
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Post by prince on Jul 19, 2020 10:59:07 GMT
i fail to understand the point of having the policy translated to spanish for potential spanish players ?? shouldnt we also have it translated on other languages
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elmon
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Post by elmon on Jul 19, 2020 11:03:36 GMT
for potential spanish players ?? shouldnt we also have it translated on other languages Yes? We never exclusively chose Spanish lol it just happens that Lykhant was the first to offer and no one else has
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Daniels
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Post by Daniels on Jul 19, 2020 11:25:58 GMT
Self-harm and suicide threats should not be a temporary ban as they are very serious, and should be taken seriously. It should become a permanent ban until the player feels better and decides to appeal.
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Wild1145
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 19, 2020 12:43:37 GMT
Self-harm and suicide threats should not be a temporary ban as they are very serious, and should be taken seriously. It should become a permanent ban until the player feels better and decides to appeal. We are not psychiatrists and do not have the actual skill to make an informed decision on someones mental health... We should not be getting involved in that full stop. Permbanning the player may cause more harm to their mental health than leaving them be. Let's not pretend we're all medical professionals and know better.
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Daniels
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Post by Daniels on Jul 19, 2020 13:36:07 GMT
Self-harm and suicide threats should not be a temporary ban as they are very serious, and should be taken seriously. It should become a permanent ban until the player feels better and decides to appeal. We are not psychiatrists and do not have the actual skill to make an informed decision on someones mental health... We should not be getting involved in that full stop. Permbanning the player may cause more harm to their mental health than leaving them be. Let's not pretend we're all medical professionals and know better. I may not be a psychiatrist but I have lived through the mental torture and hell known as depression. My family also has a history of depression and other mental illnesses. Permbanning the player may be the best thing we can do and just simply leaving them alone will not suffice. If these players have enough time to go on TotalFreedom and tell everyone that they want to commit suicide, then they definitely have the time to see a psychiatrist or therapist.
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Wild1145
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 19, 2020 13:39:28 GMT
We are not psychiatrists and do not have the actual skill to make an informed decision on someones mental health... We should not be getting involved in that full stop. Permbanning the player may cause more harm to their mental health than leaving them be. Let's not pretend we're all medical professionals and know better. I may not be a psychiatrist but I have lived through the mental torture and hell known as depression. My family also has a history of depression and other mental illnesses. Permbanning the player may be the best thing we can do and just simply leaving them alone will not suffice. If these players have enough time to go on TotalFreedom and tell everyone that they want to commit suicide, then they definitely have the time to see a psychiatrist or therapist. Very easy for you to say, but for some people this may be their only outlet, they may have other things going on in their lives we're not aware of, or in a lot of countries may not be able to access such medical care. We're not medical professionals, and if people choose to spend their time on this server that's fine, if they break our rules by all mean sanction them, but perm banning someone because you think they might be a suicide risk is not appropriate.
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Daniels
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Post by Daniels on Jul 19, 2020 13:46:40 GMT
I may not be a psychiatrist but I have lived through the mental torture and hell known as depression. My family also has a history of depression and other mental illnesses. Permbanning the player may be the best thing we can do and just simply leaving them alone will not suffice. If these players have enough time to go on TotalFreedom and tell everyone that they want to commit suicide, then they definitely have the time to see a psychiatrist or therapist. Very easy for you to say, but for some people this may be their only outlet, they may have other things going on in their lives we're not aware of, or in a lot of countries may not be able to access such medical care. We're not medical professionals, and if people choose to spend their time on this server that's fine, if they break our rules by all mean sanction them, but perm banning someone because you think they might be a suicide risk is not appropriate. I'm not saying I think they might be a suicide risk, I am saying they are. The fact that it is only a 24 hour temporary ban baffles me. Talking about depression is not very easy for me. It has affected me and some of my other family members. I understand the pain and torture someone goes through, so no, it isn't very easy for me to say.
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elmon
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Post by elmon on Jul 19, 2020 14:36:49 GMT
I may not be a psychiatrist but I have lived through the mental torture and hell known as depression. My family also has a history of depression and other mental illnesses. Permbanning the player may be the best thing we can do and just simply leaving them alone will not suffice. If these players have enough time to go on TotalFreedom and tell everyone that they want to commit suicide, then they definitely have the time to see a psychiatrist or therapist. Very easy for you to say, but for some people this may be their only outlet, they may have other things going on in their lives we're not aware of, or in a lot of countries may not be able to access such medical care. We're not medical professionals, and if people choose to spend their time on this server that's fine, if they break our rules by all mean sanction them, but perm banning someone because you think they might be a suicide risk is not appropriate. I agree with you, but I still think the day ban is appropriate to keep as, joking or not, you shouldn't be on the server threatening suicide or saying you're going to kill yourself it makes people uncomfortable and the server is really not the place to talk about that.
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Post by miwo on Jul 19, 2020 15:44:01 GMT
I may not be a psychiatrist but I have lived through the mental torture and hell known as depression. My family also has a history of depression and other mental illnesses. Permbanning the player may be the best thing we can do and just simply leaving them alone will not suffice. If these players have enough time to go on TotalFreedom and tell everyone that they want to commit suicide, then they definitely have the time to see a psychiatrist or therapist. Very easy for you to say, but for some people this may be their only outlet, they may have other things going on in their lives we're not aware of, or in a lot of countries may not be able to access such medical care. We're not medical professionals, and if people choose to spend their time on this server that's fine, if they break our rules by all mean sanction them, but perm banning someone because you think they might be a suicide risk is not appropriate. You could easily justify your behaviour with "it was just a joke" if you get banned or muted for threatning to kill yourself - should suicide jokes/threats be banned, or how else would you judge this?
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