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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 17, 2020 13:48:44 GMT
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Post by fionn on Jul 17, 2020 14:10:19 GMT
"6. If I, or any of the discord staff, find that you have dox’d or ddos’d anyone in the community, you will be banned. Even if you discuss doing so, you’re out of luck when it comes to staying in this server. Oh, also you will be banned from everywhere else too :)" Rule 6 of the Discord
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Post by monkeh on Jul 17, 2020 14:56:12 GMT
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 17, 2020 15:15:25 GMT
"6. If I, or any of the discord staff, find that you have dox’d or ddos’d anyone in the community, you will be banned. Even if you discuss doing so, you’re out of luck when it comes to staying in this server. Oh, also you will be banned from everywhere else too " Rule 6 of the Discord Ignoring the whole argument of it wasn't in our discord server or about anyone who's still a part of the community. That only warrants a ban from the discord, not the forums and in game, as Seth made clear when he removed one of the original forum posting guidelines, they did not break the forum posting guidelines, so should never have been banned from the forums..?
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Post by fionn on Jul 17, 2020 15:16:40 GMT
"6. If I, or any of the discord staff, find that you have dox’d or ddos’d anyone in the community, you will be banned. Even if you discuss doing so, you’re out of luck when it comes to staying in this server. Oh, also you will be banned from everywhere else too :)" Rule 6 of the Discord Ignoring the whole argument of it wasn't in our discord server or about anyone who's still a part of the community. That only warrants a ban from the discord, not the forums and in game, as Seth made clear when he removed one of the original forum posting guidelines, they did not break the forum posting guidelines, so should never have been banned from the forums..? Emphasis on the last part. "Oh, and you will be banned from everywhere esle too :)"
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 17, 2020 16:29:44 GMT
Ignoring the whole argument of it wasn't in our discord server or about anyone who's still a part of the community. That only warrants a ban from the discord, not the forums and in game, as Seth made clear when he removed one of the original forum posting guidelines, they did not break the forum posting guidelines, so should never have been banned from the forums..? Emphasis on the last part. "Oh, and you will be banned from everywhere esle too " Again, contradicts other rules, generally at that point it's null and void. It also again ignores the fact this didn't happen on the TF Discord... It didn't break the TF discord rule (Or forum rules, or server rules) because it happened away from a TF platform.
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Post by Telesphoreo on Jul 17, 2020 22:11:22 GMT
Vouch
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Post by kybry13 on Jul 17, 2020 22:16:46 GMT
Vouch.
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Post by Jayscoob on Jul 18, 2020 4:36:12 GMT
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Post by awesomelink234 on Jul 18, 2020 4:44:25 GMT
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Post by Super on Jul 19, 2020 2:29:20 GMT
Video and Wilee were both banned properly for what happened. While Video took responsibility for what he did and looks to move forward, Wilee instead wrote a whole essay on why he thinks his ban is unfair without any attempt to apologize or recognize that what he did was wrong. This proves that he is stuck on this whole situation and he shouldn't come back until he is ready to properly move past it.
Vouch for Video, Object for Wilee
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Post by zekurt on Jul 19, 2020 2:45:40 GMT
It also again ignores the fact this didn't happen on the TF Discord... It didn't break the TF discord rule (Or forum rules, or server rules) because it happened away from a TF platform. The rule doesn't state it has to be on any TF platform. It says if you're caught doxing anyone in the community period, you're banned from all TF platforms.
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 19, 2020 12:34:56 GMT
It also again ignores the fact this didn't happen on the TF Discord... It didn't break the TF discord rule (Or forum rules, or server rules) because it happened away from a TF platform. The rule doesn't state it has to be on any TF platform. It says if you're caught doxing anyone in the community period, you're banned from all TF platforms. And that rule is contradicted by the forum guidelines that state you will no longer be banned from all platforms if you break a rule. And again, YOU ARE NOT THE INTERNET POLICE. Stop trying to enforce TF rules where TF has no business.
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Post by zekurt on Jul 19, 2020 12:55:08 GMT
The rule doesn't state it has to be on any TF platform. It says if you're caught doxing anyone in the community period, you're banned from all TF platforms. And that rule is contradicted by the forum guidelines that state you will no longer be banned from all platforms if you break a rule. And again, YOU ARE NOT THE INTERNET POLICE. Stop trying to enforce TF rules where TF has no business. It's not contradictory, it's overlapping. Also, we're not the internet police, but this server reserves the right to enforce its rules however it pleases. If you dox a member of our community, you have no business on TF.
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 19, 2020 13:14:55 GMT
And that rule is contradicted by the forum guidelines that state you will no longer be banned from all platforms if you break a rule. And again, YOU ARE NOT THE INTERNET POLICE. Stop trying to enforce TF rules where TF has no business. It's not contradictory, it's overlapping. Also, we're not the internet police, but this server reserves the right to enforce its rules however it pleases. If you dox a member of our community, you have no business on TF. Incorrect, the discord rules (Which I didn't even know were a thing) say you will be banned from everywhere. The forum guidelines have a statement from Seth saying he does not like that as a policy and you will only be banned where you broke the rule. Given they didn't break the rule in the TF Discord, the TF Forums or the TF Server I'm struggling to see where they broke a rule... You can't apply rules because you feel like it and because it fits the current narrative. Either way it's clear we won't agree on this, I see this as people on the server trying to police the internet and overreach in their power to moderate what people should choose to do in their own time and if people can't see that, the server clearly has had it's fall from grace.
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