CurtainPoles
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Post by CurtainPoles on Jul 7, 2020 12:51:22 GMT
I plan on starting lessons and getting my licence very soon as lessons have recently started up again in the UK, I know that their are some admins who drive, and I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a good, cheap car, won't be super expensive to insure or anything.
Again, this will be my first car so I'm not too bothered about it being the fastest asking as it can get me from A to B.
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Post by Fleek on Jul 7, 2020 12:56:37 GMT
It really depends on what size of the car you are more comfortable with.
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Post by fionn on Jul 7, 2020 13:52:39 GMT
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Post by thecjgcjg on Jul 7, 2020 14:03:17 GMT
Ford Fiesta, best first car. Mk4 or Mk5 are reasonably cheap as well, and when you inveitably damage it, or something falls apart (cause it'll be an 80k mile car) - parts are cheap too  Failing that, a VW Polo. Getting a nice car, or a fast car as you first car - will only end badly for you, give yourself a couple of years to get used to driving before you get something nicer or with a bit more power. For the UK, and getting started you'll be fine with 70-80HP. You'll probably struggle as well to get insurance without Telematics (black box), so save yourself from yourself and don't get something fast, cause you'll just be tempted to use it. oh and also, don't live in the north, insurance is expensive up there |
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Post by CurtainPoles on Jul 7, 2020 14:09:27 GMT
Ford Fiesta, best first car. Mk4 or Mk5 are reasonably cheap as well, and when you inveitably damage it, or something falls apart (cause it'll be an 80k mile car) - parts are cheap too Failing that, a VW Polo. Getting a nice car, or a fast car as you first car - will only end badly for you, give yourself a couple of years to get used to driving before you get something nicer or with a bit more power. For the UK, and getting started you'll be fine with 70-80HP. You'll probably struggle as well to get insurance without Telematics (black box), so save yourself from yourself and don't get something fast, cause you'll just be tempted to use it. oh and also, don't live in the north, insurance is expensive up there slight problem. I live in the North West, Manchester area. |
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Post by JagWire on Jul 7, 2020 14:13:09 GMT
I have a 2012 citroen C3, and I found that the insurance was pretty cheap on it. It's also very comfortable. For you first year, most likely you will end up with a black box. Unless you become a named driver, or want to pay a ridiculous premium to avoid one.
In my first year, my insurance was about £1300, that was a named driver on my mother's 2015 ford fiesta.
Then I got my own car in 2018. and the insurance was £800 odd.
The next year it was £735.
This year it was £382!
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Post by thecjgcjg on Jul 7, 2020 14:20:16 GMT
Ford Fiesta, best first car. Mk4 or Mk5 are reasonably cheap as well, and when you inveitably damage it, or something falls apart (cause it'll be an 80k mile car) - parts are cheap too Failing that, a VW Polo. Getting a nice car, or a fast car as you first car - will only end badly for you, give yourself a couple of years to get used to driving before you get something nicer or with a bit more power. For the UK, and getting started you'll be fine with 70-80HP. You'll probably struggle as well to get insurance without Telematics (black box), so save yourself from yourself and don't get something fast, cause you'll just be tempted to use it. oh and also, don't live in the north, insurance is expensive up there slight problem. I live in the North West, Manchester area. I say the insurance in the north comment as largely a joke, it's a little bit more expensive than in the south, but unless you're somewhere like Birmingham or Leeds, and outside of the city centers you'll probably be alright. My insurance prices kinda looked something like this so on most cars, insurance isn't actually that unreasonable as long as you pick reasonable cars Year 1 (Ford Fiesta mk4) - £998 with a black box -- Write off Year 2 - Ford Focus Mk3 - £1100 -- Points on license Year 3 - Ford Focus Mk3 - £1850 Year 4 - VW Arteon - £1350 The Fiesta and Polo will cost a bit more than a C1 or a Peugot 107, and if you don't really care about the size of your car, that'd make a bit more choice. Personally i'd opt for the Fiesta/Polo, do a couple of quotes around on different vehicles and see what comes back |
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Post by AshazTGA on Jul 7, 2020 14:47:48 GMT
Just recently my dad had to help my cousin who needed a first car.
Focus mainly on 1.2 litre and under. My cousin bought a Citroen c1.
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Post by SupItsDillon on Jul 7, 2020 14:49:28 GMT
I got my first car about a year and a half ago, and I was looking for ages as the insurance quotes I was getting, with a black box mind, were ridiculous. Even on shitty little 1l cars, I was still getting quotes for over 2.5k with stupid excesses. Eventually settled paying 2.1k on a 20 year old 1l Corsa with about 5 bhp, but it still got me from A to B. Engine was fucked on it I think anyway, I had to wait for it to idle for a couple of minutes before it would have any power.
I have a 1.4 2011 Fiat Grande Punto right now, its the 8v Sound version, which is quite rare in comparison to the other models, so I think that helped with lowering my insurance to about £1350, this time without a black box; my cheapest quote was like £950 with a black box. I had 1 year no claims at this point though.
Personally, if the price difference for you is only a couple of hundred quid between choosing a black box and not choosing one, don't go for one. They're stressful and very inaccurate, and the stupid limits they put on really turned me away from them. I couldn't drive after 10pm without loosing score, couldn't drive for more than an hour without my score going to -6, which just generally limits you, especially when you're in traffic.
A few tips:
When doing quotes for a, Fiesta for example, even if they look like the exact same model, same engine size etc., do separate quotes, I can guarantee they will be different.
Try and add a couple of named drivers, even if they only have a provisional licence, add them anyway and see how much it goes down.
Weirdly, when I went to insure my Punto, when I put down that I would be modifying it (putting alloys on it, it came with steel wheels), my quote went down £100. If you're planning on even adding a dash cam, or indeed changing wheels, put it down and see if the price goes down.
Obviously look around at all comparison sites, but GoCompare is going an offer where you get £250 free excess off them, so when doing your quotes, add another £250 excess on top of what it recommends, and the prices will, although slightly, come down.
If you have any more questions, lmk and I might be able to answer them
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Also forgot to mention, don't go for something like a Mini, BMW, VW or Audi unless you can afford the ridiculous prices for parts, which assuming by the fact you're after a cheap car, I wouldn't think so; not to mention you'd struggle to find anything cheap to insure from them anyway.
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Post by AshazTGA on Jul 7, 2020 14:55:00 GMT
Ford Fiesta, best first car. Mk4 or Mk5 are reasonably cheap as well, and when you inveitably damage it, or something falls apart (cause it'll be an 80k mile car) - parts are cheap too Failing that, a VW Polo. Getting a nice car, or a fast car as you first car - will only end badly for you, give yourself a couple of years to get used to driving before you get something nicer or with a bit more power. For the UK, and getting started you'll be fine with 70-80HP. You'll probably struggle as well to get insurance without Telematics (black box), so save yourself from yourself and don't get something fast, cause you'll just be tempted to use it. oh and also, don't live in the north, insurance is expensive up there Ford Fiesta is not that great to be honest. Aygo and C1 are the best cars for new drivers. |
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Post by SupItsDillon on Jul 7, 2020 15:57:09 GMT
Ford Fiesta, best first car. Mk4 or Mk5 are reasonably cheap as well, and when you inveitably damage it, or something falls apart (cause it'll be an 80k mile car) - parts are cheap too Failing that, a VW Polo. Getting a nice car, or a fast car as you first car - will only end badly for you, give yourself a couple of years to get used to driving before you get something nicer or with a bit more power. For the UK, and getting started you'll be fine with 70-80HP. You'll probably struggle as well to get insurance without Telematics (black box), so save yourself from yourself and don't get something fast, cause you'll just be tempted to use it. oh and also, don't live in the north, insurance is expensive up there Ford Fiesta is not that great to be honest. Aygo and C1 are the best cars for new drivers. For the price you can get a decent mk5 nowadays, parts are cheap and readily available and there are loads of lower end engines to choose from. I would never go near a French car, parents have had 2 in the past 4 or so years where the engines have give up on them. Around 120k miles were on the clock on both. Toyota’s and Honda’s are decent but tend to hold their value because of how reliable they are. For anyone’s first car, either a Fiesta or Corsa is the best shout. As I said, cheap and readily available parts, and cheap to run. |
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 7, 2020 16:57:12 GMT
For a learner car, an old Corsa is really good, me and my younger brother both had/have them as first cars (A 2000 Cora Comfort and now my brother has a 2002 Corsa Comfort), cost like £500 and tend to be easy to fix when things go wrong so you don't end up needing a garage.
Then as a 'Proper' car as it were once I'd passed and wasn't so likely to ding the car, I really loved my Ford Fiesta, used to have a 2010 plate one that was lovely to drive.
Also, yeah, don't get a black box, they cause so much more trouble than it's worth. Never had one, never will.
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 7, 2020 16:59:29 GMT
Ford Fiesta, best first car. Mk4 or Mk5 are reasonably cheap as well, and when you inveitably damage it, or something falls apart (cause it'll be an 80k mile car) - parts are cheap too Failing that, a VW Polo. Getting a nice car, or a fast car as you first car - will only end badly for you, give yourself a couple of years to get used to driving before you get something nicer or with a bit more power. For the UK, and getting started you'll be fine with 70-80HP. You'll probably struggle as well to get insurance without Telematics (black box), so save yourself from yourself and don't get something fast, cause you'll just be tempted to use it. oh and also, don't live in the north, insurance is expensive up there Ford Fiesta is not that great to be honest. Aygo and C1 are the best cars for new drivers. The Fiesta is a lovely car, I had mine for a couple of years IIRC and had few to no problems with it, wouldn't buy one now but that's because I like the SUV Style cars so a fiesta is a tad too small for my liking. |
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Post by CurtainPoles on Jul 7, 2020 17:00:19 GMT
It is likely I'll be driving late like between 8pm and 1am as they're usually the times my mate needs a lift somewhere so id assume I'd be restricted from doing this with a black box?
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Post by SupItsDillon on Jul 7, 2020 17:04:19 GMT
It is likely I'll be driving late like between 8pm and 1am as they're usually the times my mate needs a lift somewhere so id assume I'd be restricted from doing this with a black box? Most of the cheaper insurance companies that use black boxes put all of these stupid limits in place, so unless you go with a much more expensive one, you’ll just get marked down all the time for it |
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Failing that, a VW Polo.
