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Post by grntbg on Jul 5, 2020 23:20:19 GMT
Oft: but what name would we change the rank name to, that would be interesting. As we have been used to "telnet admin" for quite some time. I mentioned another suggestion which suggests combining the "super" and "telnet" ranks into one, which is something I am in agreement with.
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Post by fionn on Jul 5, 2020 23:25:33 GMT
Oft: but what name would we change the rank name to, that would be interesting. As we have been used to "telnet admin" for quite some time. SSH Admin
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Post by JagWire on Jul 5, 2020 23:27:31 GMT
Oft: but what name would we change the rank name to, that would be interesting. As we have been used to "telnet admin" for quite some time. SSH Admin
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Post by AshazTGA on Jul 5, 2020 23:28:30 GMT
Oft: but what name would we change the rank name to, that would be interesting. As we have been used to "telnet admin" for quite some time. SSH Admin Doesn't really work well tbh, cos if you try and shorten it, it becomes SSHA or SA which will clash with super. Maybe we could make it Tier 1, 2 and 3 admins instead?
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Post by fionn on Jul 5, 2020 23:30:22 GMT
Doesn't really work well tbh, cos if you try and shorten it, it becomes SSHA or SA which will clash with super. Maybe we could make it Tier 1, 2 and 3 admins instead? my comment was primarily a joke, but tier 1, 2 and 3 admin does not work at all. the most suitable option in this scenario is a like grntbg said, admin and mod
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Post by CurtainPoles on Jul 5, 2020 23:33:13 GMT
Doesn't really work well tbh, cos if you try and shorten it, it becomes SSHA or SA which will clash with super. Maybe we could make it Tier 1, 2 and 3 admins instead? my comment was primarily a joke, but tier 1, 2 and 3 admin does not work at all. the most suitable option in this scenario is a like grntbg said, admin and mod I do not agree with changing the rank structure, though I do see why it appeals to some and why they'd want to change it, though if ranks were to change I think we should just have admin and senior admin, though getting even the first admin rank should be made a lot more difficult else we'd have everyone having telnet (or SSH) access
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Post by AshazTGA on Jul 5, 2020 23:33:15 GMT
Doesn't really work well tbh, cos if you try and shorten it, it becomes SSHA or SA which will clash with super. Maybe we could make it Tier 1, 2 and 3 admins instead? my comment was primarily a joke, but tier 1, 2 and 3 admin does not work at all. the most suitable option in this scenario is a like grntbg said, admin and mod Yup, but the problem is a lot of people don't support it. Also, I don't understand humour much.
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Post by Gommeh on Jul 6, 2020 4:20:46 GMT
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Post by burger on Jul 6, 2020 4:25:22 GMT
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on Jul 6, 2020 7:07:55 GMT
Oft: but what name would we change the rank name to, that would be interesting. As we have been used to "telnet admin" for quite some time. SSH Admin i mean, we could still keep it as telnet, even if it doesn't make much sense, we don't have to change it if we don't want to
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Post by grntbg on Jul 6, 2020 8:01:21 GMT
i mean, we could still keep it as telnet, even if it doesn't make much sense, we don't have to change it if we don't want to That's stupid and this should not be discussed in a suggestion about the implementation of the protocol itself, not the corresponding rank which permits access to telnet. Please keep this thread on-topic.
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Post by elmon on Jul 6, 2020 8:15:09 GMT
I agree with this suggestion going through seeing as having the telnet protocol is a security flaw, but changing our remote console protocol doesn't mean we have to change our rank structure due to a naming inaccuracy.. it doesn't magically change the majority's vote for keeping the rank structure how it is.
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Post by Wild1145 on Jul 6, 2020 9:24:50 GMT
As much as I disagree with the separation of supers & telnet's at the moment, we should be able to maintain the two ranks in their current format using this, or equally incorporate a change to the tech stack in to any future suggestions to change how those ranks might work in the future. Tbh I'd keep the names the same also to highlight how silly it is that we have ranks defined on the historic product you had access to (Also see what was Telnet Clan Admins)
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Post by grntbg on Jul 6, 2020 14:31:08 GMT
All of you: stop discussing rank structure in this suggestion. It is derailing what this thread’s topic is about (usage of one protocol over another) and there’s already a suggestion on the topic of ranks.
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Post by thecjgcjg on Jul 6, 2020 20:27:07 GMT
So, whilst in spirit I would be inclined to agree with this change, I would personally say that your development effort would be better spent perhaps building a web console (or something like that) that could communicate with TFM (or whatever is being used nowadays) using WebSockets. Even integrating into something like Mojang for SSO (if they support that, they may not). Would arguably be more secure against the type of attack you'd be more vulnerable to.
Would make the whole thing a bit more user friendly, let's you use TLS instead of SSH, which arguably has better real world authenticity checking (be honest, how often have you actually checked the fingerprint of a server you're connecting to). That said, the chance of someone exploiting such a thing to access a Minecraft server is very low - but you could say the same thing about the use of Clear Text telnet though.
I do believe though, SSH may be the best Telnet-Like solution, maybe this should be the time to consider a possibly better alternative in the form of a Web UI.
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