Review & Refine Ranking Model

I'm going to simply object. I don't see any benefits from this.

I don't see how this is relevant to a point other than we have a horrifying ratio of staff to players?

yeah well now we have 14 telnets and 14 super admins

Thanks for elaborating, greatly appreciated.

I think my view on this is Telnet never used to exist as a rank, it was only introduced as a way to try and control who can have console access, and that used to be because Telnet used to have a lot more power than it does today.

Super admins should be capable of administering effectively and I'm just struggling to see what actual benefit the server gets from restricting telnet access, and there is a serious amount of damage a normal super admin could do already.

I'm not suggesting changes to the permissions as part of this, just to try to reduce the amount of ranks we have, because while we have 3 'Core' ranks, we currently actually have a lot more due to how executives and all of that. My view is admins should be "SA's" and those more trusted and experienced should be "Senior admins" because that's the title.

I know when I went through the admin promotion process, telnet was not a rank and there was an expectation that admins act responsibly, I feel that's a better model in this case over showing an active lack of trust for admins who's job it is to administer the server...

Now that I'm awake,

Super Admin and Telnet Admin are fundamentally similar and if this suggestion were to go through it would be beneficial as a whole. This is an avant-garde that will renew enthusiasm and productivity throughout the Admin Team. In my personal opinion Telnet Admin is redundant and I've had this opinion since essentially forever. It's a rank that could easily be grouped in with Super Admin. What additional permissions do Telnet Admins have? Adding Admins? That's literally all they have.

This would be a fresh change that would be better than our current SA, STA, SRA system we have in place. Our current system is out of date, old and the names are really stupid and seems as if they were created on the spot. I'm aware TCA is now gone but that stood for "Telnet Clan-Forge Admin" which was our current host at the time. Telnet Admin stands for the protocol-based console access they have, Super Admin is based on god knows what and Senior Admin makes us sound elderly.

Telnet is a 'Relatively' new concept, we managed for quite a few years before Telnet was introduced, and as I say it's primary reason for a separate rank was back when TFM had limited access to manage permissions on Telnet, and it used to basically give you everything a senior had but without Clanforge.

I think now that TFM has evolved and TF has as well it seems a sensible time to re-merge those ranks back down.

I agree that reviewing the permissions probably makes sense, and is something we should probably think about doing either way regardless of if this suggestion goes through though, would imagine there are permissions that could do with tweaking if we want to make administrators more effective on the server, it's sort of natural when a plugin and server has been running for this long that things historically could benefit from a change.

I object purely because I don't think that we should be giving newly appointed, inexperienced admins telnet access.