Darth
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Post by Darth on Jun 19, 2020 21:06:40 GMT
What if the reason is something dumb or unfounded? Everyone should have to give a coherent reasoning for ANY vote (except maybe neutral) and back yourself up with facts if accusations are made. Because there is no objective way to determine if a reason is dumb or unfounded, and to open up that door is dangerous. I support reasoning being required for yes and no votes, but I do not in any way support invalidating them based on the content of their reasoning. I'm more referring to reasons such as "object, you're stupid" or "vouch, everyone else is vouching" or similar. I agree we shouldn't try and quantify "unfounded" votes beyond that, though.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jun 19, 2020 21:08:59 GMT
Because there is no objective way to determine if a reason is dumb or unfounded, and to open up that door is dangerous. I support reasoning being required for yes and no votes, but I do not in any way support invalidating them based on the content of their reasoning. I'm more referring to reasons such as "object, you're stupid" or "vouch, everyone else is vouching" or similar. I agree we shouldn't try and quantify "unfounded" votes beyond that, though. Specific cases such as insulting somebody can be objectively determined, but beyond that it turns into interpretation.
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Post by Darth on Jun 19, 2020 21:11:30 GMT
I'm more referring to reasons such as "object, you're stupid" or "vouch, everyone else is vouching" or similar. I agree we shouldn't try and quantify "unfounded" votes beyond that, though. Specific cases such as insulting somebody can be objectively determined, but beyond that it turns into interpretation. Yes, I'm agreeing with you. But vouches with the reasoning like the example I gave, or votes without any reasons at all should also not be counted.
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Post by fleshy_ on Jun 19, 2020 21:18:21 GMT
Neutral
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Post by awesomelink234 on Jun 20, 2020 3:29:08 GMT
Dang, you were permbanned? Anyway vouch
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jun 20, 2020 7:22:42 GMT
Please keep in mind that this is a permban appeal and not a discussion thread on voting. If you believe the response instructions need to be changed, please create a suggestion.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jun 20, 2020 7:47:57 GMT
If you believe the response instructions need to be changed, please create a suggestion. Already did, the suggestion was abruptly closed.
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Post by StevenNL2000 on Jun 22, 2020 15:56:26 GMT
Unbanned, the majority is clear. If I was the admin officer, I would restrict the reinstatement as Wize suggested, but that's zeseryu's call.
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Post by zeseryu on Jun 22, 2020 16:09:01 GMT
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