fionn
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Post by fionn on Jun 18, 2020 19:00:26 GMT
what's the *actual* reason? saying you fail to see an administrator is very vague and does not give the operator any room to improve I fail to see Bowie maintaining the server and dealing with stressful situations, also although she is active I barely see her talk via chat or VC since she is mostly quiet. I find her perfect as a operator but not as an administrator for such reasons and I find that to be good reason to why I objected. Of course, I could be wrong since I'm nowhere close to knowing who Bowie is but from my experience I think it's fine to say that she wouldn't be able to preform admins tasks without facing issues. In case she gets accepted which is most likely, she will need training. My vote stands solid. How is she supposed to 'maintain' the server if she's an operator? What stressful situations have you seen her, first of all be faced with, and second of all dealt with poorly? She's very active when it comes to chatting and objecting because she is quiet in voice chat is not a valid reason at all. Literally every admin ever has needed training. No admin has been accepted knowing the ins and outs of being an admin.
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nick
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Post by nick on Jun 18, 2020 19:02:27 GMT
I fail to see Bowie maintaining the server and dealing with stressful situations, also although she is active I barely see her talk via chat or VC since she is mostly quiet. I find her perfect as a operator but not as an administrator for such reasons and I find that to be good reason to why I objected. Of course, I could be wrong since I'm nowhere close to knowing who Bowie is but from my experience I think it's fine to say that she wouldn't be able to preform admins tasks without facing issues. In case she gets accepted which is most likely, she will need training. My vote stands solid. How is she supposed to 'maintain' the server if she's an operator and what stressful situations have you seen her, first of all be faced with, and second of all dealt with poorly. She's very active when it comes to chatting and objecting because she is quiet in voice chat is not a valid reason at all. Literally every admin ever has needed training. No admin has been accepted knowing the ins and outs of being an admin. My vote stays the same, please do mind your own business as I do mind my own.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 19:03:01 GMT
Vouch and eec confirm, she'll do a good job.
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elmon
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Post by elmon on Jun 18, 2020 19:04:28 GMT
How is she supposed to 'maintain' the server if she's an operator and what stressful situations have you seen her, first of all be faced with, and second of all dealt with poorly. She's very active when it comes to chatting and objecting because she is quiet in voice chat is not a valid reason at all. Literally every admin ever has needed training. No admin has been accepted knowing the ins and outs of being an admin. My vote stays the same, please do mind your own business as I do mind my own. "Admins can (or comment about) other admin/op vouches/objections/comments"
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fionn
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Post by fionn on Jun 18, 2020 19:06:44 GMT
How is she supposed to 'maintain' the server if she's an operator and what stressful situations have you seen her, first of all be faced with, and second of all dealt with poorly. She's very active when it comes to chatting and objecting because she is quiet in voice chat is not a valid reason at all. Literally every admin ever has needed training. No admin has been accepted knowing the ins and outs of being an admin. My vote stays the same, please do mind your own business as I do mind my own. I'm not trying to change your vote, I'm trying to get you to further elaborate on your vote.
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square
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Post by square on Jun 18, 2020 19:08:38 GMT
How is she supposed to 'maintain' the server if she's an operator and what stressful situations have you seen her, first of all be faced with, and second of all dealt with poorly. She's very active when it comes to chatting and objecting because she is quiet in voice chat is not a valid reason at all. Literally every admin ever has needed training. No admin has been accepted knowing the ins and outs of being an admin. My vote stays the same, please do mind your own business as I do mind my own. "Of course, I could be wrong since I'm nowhere close to knowing who Bowie is" "My vote stays the same" ??
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nick
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Post by nick on Jun 18, 2020 19:19:32 GMT
This isn't gonna turn into a warzone, it's an application made by a member of our community. I voted based on my knowledge of bowie. If you don't like it and wanna discuss then my DMs are always open, I'm also open to changing my vote in the future based on more admin input or myself witnessing her help in-game.
Again, my DMs on discord & Forums are open for discussions.
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burger
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Post by burger on Jun 18, 2020 19:35:13 GMT
Vouch & rec. Bowie is an amazing player whom is not only very friendly, but a person who has been able prove to the community (accept nick cuz he is weird) that she is more than deserving of the rank.
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super
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Post by super on Jun 18, 2020 19:52:16 GMT
Object, as much as you're active and polite I fail to see as an administrator. Seeing the replies on this thread, my vote will most likely not matter but I find no reason to vouch. shouldn't you be going neutral if you have no reason to vouch? objecting means you have something against the applicant.
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neroblackcat
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Post by neroblackcat on Jun 18, 2020 19:54:26 GMT
So I was really shy when I first applied for admin. Guess what, it didn't stop me from administrating! Guess I shouldn't have been admin at all if we're going off being shy. Anyways, I obviously vouch. This op has great knowledge of our rules and they're ACTIVE AS SHIT. I would rec if I were admin but I think bowie should do just fine. Good luck!
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Taze
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Post by Taze on Jun 18, 2020 19:54:56 GMT
I’m going neutral for Nick’s reason.
No, I'm going to object. Still for Nick's reason as well as that I don't see you fit as an admin, any operator can just be active, but not a reason to become an admin. If you disagree with me here, go DM me or PM.
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on Jun 18, 2020 19:55:39 GMT
shouldn't you be going neutral if you have no reason to vouch? objecting means you have something against the applicant. he did say he has a reason I fail to see Bowie maintaining the server and dealing with stressful situations, also although she is active I barely see her talk via chat or VC since she is mostly quiet. I find her perfect as a operator but not as an administrator for such reasons and I find that to be good reason to why I objected. Of course, I could be wrong since I'm nowhere close to knowing who Bowie is but from my experience I think it's fine to say that she wouldn't be able to preform admins tasks without facing issues. In case she gets accepted which is most likely, she will need training. My vote stands solid. also i have changed to an object for that same reason
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Jun 18, 2020 19:57:41 GMT
It seems inappropriate to have 5 different people ganging up on a single admin just because they had a dissenting opinion. Are people not allowed to go with their conscience even though you may disagree? It's the reason why Mark had rules in place to prevent applications turning into unnecessary wars.
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fionn
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Post by fionn on Jun 18, 2020 20:00:54 GMT
It seems inappropriate to have 5 different people ganging up on a single admin just because they had a dissenting opinion. Are people not allowed to go with their conscience even though you may disagree? It's the reason why Mark had rules in place to prevent applications turning into unnecessary wars. I didn't "gang up" on him I simply expressed why I believe his Objection was invalid
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square
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Post by square on Jun 18, 2020 20:01:06 GMT
It seems inappropriate to have 5 different people ganging up on a single admin just because they had a dissenting opinion. Are people not allowed to go with their conscience even though you may disagree? It's the reason why Mark had rules in place to prevent applications turning into unnecessary wars. we're allowed to question an objection, it doesn't really help if you go "i'm not changing my vote"
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