Remove Telnet/Senior Recommendations

I feel like depending on how we used recommendations we could eliminate the additional vouch/object process altogether... it's how Mark originally worked it in 2012.

Of course they become redundant if you write the voting process in such a way that they are useless. That's not an argument for why they don't have the potential to be useful.

They were made useless in the voting process because they were already redundant. If they were useful it would of stayed. There is really no reason to add them back. We shouldn't of really had them in the first place.

Same here. But Mark created the idea for Telnet and Senior recommendations for a reason, whatever that reason may be. To me, a recommendation is a stronger statement than a vouch on an application. It means that the recommender has duly thought of the applicant in question and genuinely thinks they would be a good candidate for promotion. It’s a motion of confidence and in some cases can be the determining factor in whether or not an application is accepted. So, in my opinion we should keep the recommendation as part of the application process.

I have voiced my frank hatred for this system some time ago...

Anyone should be able to comment on an application, not as a 'Vouch, Neutral or Object' or whatever we're now doing, but to give actually useful information that would aid the EAO in making a final decision as to if they are a suitable candidate. For example having 'The player regularly joins the server and helps players' is much more useful than 'Neutral'

I think a Recommendation should be re-introduced, and that should be just that, it's a personal recommendation to say that you as an admin, think that the candidate would make an excellent admin and that you want to put your name down as someone who completely endorses them.

I think the current system lends it's self to severely limiting the 'Types' of people that will get admin, because if you're not already 'In' you won't get 'In' as it were.

I just think it's a waste of time. IF you go 'Vouch' or 'Neutral' it's utterly useless to anyone who makes the actual decision other than seeing "X said Y and C said A" - Having actual actionable information is far more valuable, you want to know the why that someone thinks they should be an admin, or why think they shouldn't. Having a neutral opinion is just a waste of a post IMO.

I think the entire vouch / object thing should be binned. Use recommendations (With a reason why) and then everything else should just be comments on that candidate to suggest what you think of them.

I could (And have done to prove a point when I was an admin) go through every single application and write 'Neutral', all it does is boost my post count, it gives no actionable information to the EAO who makes the final decision.