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Post by 97 on May 21, 2020 19:39:48 GMT
Stack has been abused by server crashers lately. However at the same time this is one of the most useful world edit commands.
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Post by zeseryu on May 21, 2020 19:47:12 GMT
just for future reference you could thoroughly explain your suggestions.
Like for this post, tell us what //stack does, tell us how its been abused, show us proof of frequent server crashes, tell us how restricting this command would be a net positive for the server, etc.
I would not be surprised if an empty suggestion like this one currently is denied.
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Post by JagWire on May 21, 2020 19:48:25 GMT
I'm sorry, but I don't agree on blocking something just on the basis that "server crashers have abused it". You can apply the same logic to about 99% of the other WorldEdit commands. I object, because as an admin, I believe that we need to put up with these, rather than limit them. It's part and parcel of being an admin.
We do not need to restrict more freedom once again, because it increases that gap between admin and op which we don't want. When we installed worldedit, we accepted the risk that players will abuse it. But after having this plugin for many years, we have learned to deal with every trick in the book.
WorldEdit crashing is not a new thing, i have had to deal with it when i first became an admin, and I'm sure admins had to deal with this before I became admin as well.
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Post by 97 on May 21, 2020 19:51:06 GMT
I'm sorry, but I don't agree on blocking something just on the basis that "server crashers have abused it". You can apply the same logic to about 99% of the other worldedit commands. I object, because as an admin, I believe that we need to put up with these, rather than limit them. I also thought this as well. I made this suggestion to see what other people think. just for future reference you could thoroughly explain your suggestions. Like for this post, tell us what //stack does, tell us how its been abused, show us proof of frequent server crashes, tell us how restricting this command would be a net positive for the server, etc. I would not be surprised if an empty suggestion like this one currently is denied. Really I wouldn't say there'd be anyway of being denied, I'd say there'd be either something done or it's fine as it is.
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Post by Video on May 21, 2020 20:08:03 GMT
I unblocked it because it was unnecessary to block and to be honest, //stack is one of the most useful commands in WorldEdit and restricting it from operators is absolutely ridiculous.
Object; it's fine as-is.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 21, 2020 21:17:52 GMT
Object to blocking a command, vouch to unblocking more commands though.
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Post by burger on May 21, 2020 23:43:23 GMT
Soon enough we, admins, are going to have no job because every command that "Greifers abuse" will be blocked.
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Post by miwo on May 21, 2020 23:55:37 GMT
How can it crash the server if the WE limit is <10000?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 0:55:04 GMT
How can it crash the server if the WE limit is <10000? //limit -1 which gives you infinite blocks thanks to a certain admin who said 'ops please test out //limit -1 and let me know if you can do it' so then it spread like wildfire (i am so not helping my case right now with forum sanction but most people dont bother to listen to me when i raise these kinda issues)
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Post by 97 on May 22, 2020 1:41:59 GMT
(i am so not helping my case right now with forum sanction but most people dont bother to listen to me when i raise these kinda issues) If you feel that it doesn't help your case don't do it
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 2:34:47 GMT
(i am so not helping my case right now with forum sanction but most people dont bother to listen to me when i raise these kinda issues) If you feel that it doesn't help your case don't do it I'd rather increase my chance of forum sanction and help the current problems than leave it all alone. As I said most people don't bother listening to me when I raise these issues up, it's only people like Dragon, Wilee or Windows that are always searching for ways to improve TF.
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Post by _Windows on May 24, 2020 1:35:19 GMT
Stack is way too useful of a building command to be blocked. Absolutely object to blocking it.
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Post by zeseryu on Jun 8, 2020 23:46:32 GMT
Denied.
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