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Post by square on May 21, 2020 20:32:28 GMT
again, this is not a thread about other peoples actions, this is a thread about innocentmango. Stop using others behaviour as a justification for it. yes, but you're trying to punish someone for something everyone is guilty for, heck, even I've powerposted recently. Im not objecting to the fact that he posted after his ban appeal, even after a warning. So why are you objecting?
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Post by SupItsDillon on May 21, 2020 20:35:17 GMT
yes, but you're trying to punish someone for something everyone is guilty for, heck, even I've powerposted recently. Im not objecting to the fact that he posted after his ban appeal, even after a warning. So why are you objecting? are you not getting it? everyone powerposts and doesnt get banned or anything for it, yet ashaz is being sanctioned for it? so just to be clear: I am vouching for a warning about him posting after being permbannedI am objecting to him receiving a punishment for powerposting
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Post by square on May 21, 2020 20:38:09 GMT
So why are you objecting? are you not getting it? everyone powerposts and doesnt get banned or anything for it, yet ashaz is being sanctioned for it? so just to be clear: I am vouching for a warning about him posting after being permbannedI am objecting to him receiving a punishment for powerpostingI do not think you understand the meaning of powerposting. He IS powerposting. Posting one or two irrelevant comments is not, he’s been doing it for a few weeks now where he posts irrelevant comments in the tens. We don’t excuse rule breaking because others do it also, ask the forum mods for these people.
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Post by 97 on May 21, 2020 21:00:09 GMT
The entirely of page 2 and 3 is literal repetitiveness.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 21, 2020 21:14:28 GMT
Vouch for a warning based off of rule violations. The OP claims there have been prior warnings but nobody has shown any evidence of this, so a tempban is excessive.
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Post by Luke on May 21, 2020 21:32:22 GMT
Vouch for a warning based off of rule violations. The OP claims there have been prior warnings but nobody has shown any evidence of this, so a tempban is excessive. imgur.com/a/CnIaACj
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 21, 2020 21:36:11 GMT
Vouch for a warning based off of rule violations. The OP claims there have been prior warnings but nobody has shown any evidence of this, so a tempban is excessive. imgur.com/a/CnIaACj I think you were overstepping your boundaries. It's the job of a forum moderator/administrator to warn people, and there also is no forum rule stating that you cannot post if you're permbanned from the server, so I think you actually misled him.
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Post by StevenNL2000 on May 21, 2020 21:36:51 GMT
I think you were overstepping your boundaries. It's the job of a forum moderator/administrator to warn people, and there also is no forum rule stating that you cannot post if you're permbanned from the server, so I think you actually misled him. 13. Server Perm Ban: Those who are server perm banned for mis-conduct may not use the forum except to discuss ban appeals This rule is the basis for this forum sanction request, as also stated in the original post.
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Post by Luke on May 21, 2020 21:37:55 GMT
I think you were overstepping your boundaries. It's the job of a forum moderator/administrator to warn people, and there also is no forum rule stating that you cannot post if you're permbanned from the server, so I think you actually misled him. see rule 13. The rule i cited in this. i wanted to give a warning that wasn't official before I did do anything official, and I discussed it in an admin lounge on Discord beforehand. You do not need to be forum staff to warn somebody informally.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 21, 2020 21:40:16 GMT
I think you were overstepping your boundaries. It's the job of a forum moderator/administrator to warn people, and there also is no forum rule stating that you cannot post if you're permbanned from the server, so I think you actually misled him. 13. Server Perm Ban: Those who are server perm banned for mis-conduct may not use the forum except to discuss ban appeals totalfreedom.boards.net/thread/8134/forum-posting-guidelines-revised-2013Ah, I read through the whole thread and somehow missed that. I feel like that hasn't been executed that much in isolated incidents though, rather only if the person also breaks other forum rules. I still think that the user hasn't actually received a warning from a forum moderator/administrator regarding those violations though, which is why I vouched for a warning over a tempban.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 21, 2020 21:40:39 GMT
I think you were overstepping your boundaries. It's the job of a forum moderator/administrator to warn people, and there also is no forum rule stating that you cannot post if you're permbanned from the server, so I think you actually misled him. see rule 13. The rule i cited in this. i wanted to give a warning that wasn't official before I did do anything official, and I discussed it in an admin lounge on Discord beforehand. You do not need to be forum staff to warn somebody informally. There is a distinction between formal and informal warnings.
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Post by Luke on May 21, 2020 21:44:11 GMT
see rule 13. The rule i cited in this. i wanted to give a warning that wasn't official before I did do anything official, and I discussed it in an admin lounge on Discord beforehand. You do not need to be forum staff to warn somebody informally. There is a distinction between formal and informal warnings. the warning however was still valid, no? the points i made weren't invalid, nor were they untrue, I dont understand how that changes anything because I'm not forum staff? just because i was the wrong person to say it doesnt make the point invalid. the fact that he still ignored an informal warning, considering i told him if he continues I will make file a request to make it formal, i don't understand how or why me saying it makes any kind of difference?
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 21, 2020 21:53:13 GMT
There is a distinction between formal and informal warnings. the warning however was still valid, no? the points i made weren't invalid, nor were they untrue, I dont understand how that changes anything because I'm not forum staff? just because i was the wrong person to say it doesnt make the point invalid. the fact that he still ignored an informal warning, considering i told him if he continues I will make file a request to make it formal, i don't understand how or why me saying it makes any kind of difference? What is your operating definition of "valid"? On forums in general, not even just this one, warnings are considered to be official messages from forum staff to users. I don't think anybody would count a user informally warning another user over Discord as a staff action. You're saying "if he continues I will make file a request to make it formal." Your request is to tempban him after implied repeated warnings, not to give him a formal warning. It's a misleading premise when the user hasn't received a warning from forum staff to begin with.
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Post by miwo on May 21, 2020 22:18:16 GMT
vouch based on rule 13. "Server Perm Ban: Those who are server perm banned for mis-conduct may not use the forum except to discuss ban appeals"
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Post by ???DaddyIndica on May 21, 2020 22:49:10 GMT
I vouch. SupItsDillon brings up a good point in his original post but I believe that the evidence for powerposting is valid. He churns out suggestions that are either entirely or majority of them are denied. He makes posts that belong in spam and drama and only pad his post count. He’s constantly throwing pity parties, and is a general nuisance more than he is beneficial. He is young, and I take that into consideration, but there’s only so many times you can warn someone to stop posting suggestions that 1. Either can’t be implemented at all, for various reasons, or are completely illogical. The warnings clearly aren’t enough and it’s time we take more drastic measures.
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