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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 22:23:38 GMT
b4 i go i read this idea from polaris
we should have a tempban of 3-6 weeks or maybe just a tad longer for those that need a break but not a long break, because once the 3-6 weeks are over they'll either come back or take a bit more time on their own which is a really helpful thing
pbans are the highest grade of punishment on TF and by giving them permbans instead of a break, it means players have to appeal etc and sometimes you don't wanna talk about it.
this is mainly for those with MH issues but this overall is a good idea as it can help our playerbase a bit
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Post by CurtainPoles on May 19, 2020 22:36:22 GMT
So you mean a ban for yourself so you don't eventually get perm banned?
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Post by JagWire on May 19, 2020 22:48:27 GMT
mark used to do this with admins in order to remove the temptation to join the server.
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Post by StevenNL2000 on May 19, 2020 22:49:31 GMT
Would the unban be manual or automatic, and if it is manual, does it require a forum post? Those are pretty important things: I assume you don't want the computer to pick a random number between 3 and 6 and use that as the ban length. mark used to do this with admins in order to remove the temptation to join the server. I only remember that being self-requested. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 22:54:17 GMT
So you mean a ban for yourself so you don't eventually get perm banned? no it's to help people with mental health issues because i predict there'll be more |
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Post by mattlawn on May 19, 2020 23:01:53 GMT
is this just to dodge a permban?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 23:07:12 GMT
is this just to dodge a permban? no, it's a way to give players a break without the need of appealing. sometimes OPs want to come back but they don't wanna talk. it's like a GTFO, it's a break from the server which gives you 24 hours to think. however this gives you a few weeks to control yourself and MAKES you leave without you worrying about having to appeal. and if you're thinking about my pban req: even if this gets put through my punishments mound to a pban request |
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on May 19, 2020 23:14:44 GMT
See my post in azash's perm banned request. If needed this can be a possible action for admins to take if it helps the player but should not be used in all cases. For example if someone is dealing with stuff IRL and uses the server as an escape from that, we shouldn't ban the player because that may just worsen the situation (unless the user is actively breaking the rules)
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Post by Luke on May 19, 2020 23:18:10 GMT
no lol
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Post by ???DaddyIndica on May 19, 2020 23:18:21 GMT
I think our system works fine. We have the conduct policy sectioned off to where we can easily differentiate between permbanning and GTFOs. If you committed an offense that you need to be kept off the server for longer than a day, a permanent ban is in order. Adding the 3-6 week ban would not only require lots of policy revision, but also add another blurred line in the banning process. You brought up mental health, which yeah I’m all for it, but if you cannot keep yourself off of a Minecraft server long enough to rehabilitate your mental health, and admins have to decide for you, than once more a permanent ban is the best option. I do agree that you’re probably only making this suggestion to curb your own future punishments, and that adds another reason not to vouch for this. No offense, but I think I speak for the whole community when I say this: please stop churning out suggestions that don’t help the server or aren’t really necessary to implement. You’re padding your post count, and moving the real suggestions people care about out of the way.
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Post by burger on May 19, 2020 23:19:02 GMT
My man is persistent I will give him that lol
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Post by ???DaddyIndica on May 19, 2020 23:21:24 GMT
is this just to dodge a permban? no, it's a way to give players a break without the need of appealing. sometimes OPs want to come back but they don't wanna talk. it's like a GTFO, it's a break from the server which gives you 24 hours to think. however this gives you a few weeks to control yourself and MAKES you leave without you worrying about having to appeal. and if you're thinking about my pban req: even if this gets put through my punishments mound to a pban request I think you’re confused. Punishments are punishments for a reason. Banning is not just a voluntary break from the server, but a real punishment that is only dealt when admins see fit. The permban works just the same as what you’re suggesting, except you just come back when that 3 week period is over. Speaking from experience, the little ‘breaks from the server’ do little to curb mental health deterioration. If you can’t help yourself to stay off of Minecraft for a few weeks voluntarily, you’ve got some real problems to worry about. |
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 19, 2020 23:24:18 GMT
I disagree with ???DaddyIndica 's point that the system is fine as is and any punishment that doesn't fall within the category of a regular ban falls right in line with a permanent ban, since if that's the case we wouldn't have so many permban appeals that get easily accepted or permban requests with an implication that the user will just appeal again at a later time or they need a "break." I believe Steven himself has brought up the point that we should probably have something in between a normal ban and a permban to make the system make more sense, and that's something that I've come to agree with. I was planning on creating a thread later on detailing how such a system could be made possible and how it would be better than the current system, but I think this thread is rushed and lacks very important implementation details and thought. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 23:27:59 GMT
I disagree with ???DaddyIndica 's point that the system is fine as is and any punishment that doesn't fall within the category of a regular ban falls right in line with a permanent ban, since if that's the case we wouldn't have so many permban requests that get easily accepted or permban requests with an implication that the user will just appeal again at a later time or they need a "break." I believe Steven himself has brought up the point that we should probably have something in between a normal ban and a permban to make the system make more sense, and that's something that I've come to agree with. I was planning on creating a thread later on detailing how such a system could be made possible and how it would be better than the current system, but I think this thread is rushed and lacks very important implementation details and thought. sorry, i can get this closed iyw |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 23:35:38 GMT
If this were to get implemented, it won't apply to you bud. as i fricking said before, this is not about me, this is about other OPs in general because there's been an increase of OPs with mental health problems and honestly just frick off please, you're just trying to get me to rage |
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