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Post by Video on May 16, 2020 21:30:28 GMT
I admit that what I did was wrong and I believe the punishment I received for it was fair. However, I'd like to note a few things. - The screenshots I posted above are from last month, before the rule of griefing unclaimed bases was implemented. At the time, I was retired, and didn't think that griefing her base was something to get riled up over. She had just resigned, and hadn't been on the SMP server for 2 weeks at the time.
- There are two main reasons I wanted to grief her base. For one, she was extremely toxic. She maliciously leaked DMs I had (which is where they got "buzz buzz" and "princess" from), mocked me, and made fun of me behind my back in the Smartn't group chat.
For two, she did the exact same thing to my base a month prior, but with creepers instead.
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kai
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Post by kai on May 16, 2020 21:34:17 GMT
I admit that what I did was wrong and I believe the punishment I received for it was fair. However, I'd like to note a few things. - The screenshots I posted above are from last month, before the rule of griefing unclaimed bases was implemented. At the time, I was retired, and didn't think that griefing her base was something to get riled up over. She had just resigned, and hadn't been on the SMP server for 2 weeks at the time.
- There are two main reasons I wanted to grief her base. For one, she was extremely toxic. She maliciously leaked DMs I had (which is where they got "buzz buzz" and "princess" from), mocked me, and made fun of me behind my back in the Smartn't group chat.
For two, she did the exact same thing to my base a month prior, but with creepers instead.
yet i restored it, and this was also before the griefing bases rule was implemented since you want to use that as an excuse. second of all, griefing should have repercussions despite your rank. yes it is something to get "riled up" over. and even despite the lack of the rule, you should still know better than to grief a base. even if i hadn't logged on in a while. i did mine as a joke and i easily restored your base immediately after, yours was done with obvious malicious intent. there is no excuse.
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burger
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Post by burger on May 16, 2020 21:39:29 GMT
I admit that what I did was wrong and I believe the punishment I received for it was fair. However, I'd like to note a few things. - The screenshots I posted above are from last month, before the rule of griefing unclaimed bases was implemented. At the time, I was retired, and didn't think that griefing her base was something to get riled up over. She had just resigned, and hadn't been on the SMP server for 2 weeks at the time.
- There are two main reasons I wanted to grief her base. For one, she was extremely toxic. She maliciously leaked DMs I had (which is where they got "buzz buzz" and "princess" from), mocked me, and made fun of me behind my back in the Smartn't group chat.
For two, she did the exact same thing to my base a month prior, but with creepers instead.
This doesn't justify what you did. As an admin your supposed to be what ops look up to. Doing this is and then coming up with a "well Kai did this to me" excuse not only makes you look like a toddler but also makes you look unprofessional. Own up to what you did wrong and don't try to blame your mistakes on someone else's mistakes.
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Video
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Post by Video on May 16, 2020 21:44:20 GMT
I admit that what I did was wrong and I believe the punishment I received for it was fair. However, I'd like to note a few things. - The screenshots I posted above are from last month, before the rule of griefing unclaimed bases was implemented. At the time, I was retired, and didn't think that griefing her base was something to get riled up over. She had just resigned, and hadn't been on the SMP server for 2 weeks at the time.
- There are two main reasons I wanted to grief her base. For one, she was extremely toxic. She maliciously leaked DMs I had (which is where they got "buzz buzz" and "princess" from), mocked me, and made fun of me behind my back in the Smartn't group chat.
For two, she did the exact same thing to my base a month prior, but with creepers instead.
yet i restored it, and this was also before the griefing bases rule was implemented since you want to use that as an excuse. second of all, griefing should have repercussions despite your rank. yes it is something to get "riled up" over. and even despite the lack of the rule, you should still know better than to grief a base. even if i hadn't logged on in a while. i did mine as a joke and i easily restored your base immediately after, yours was done with obvious malicious intent. there is no excuse. - The difference is the fact that my base was actually claimed. Yours wasn't.
- Yeah, that's why I said I believe the punishment I received was fair. Also, that's rich coming from you, considering you got away with griefing my base scott-free as a moderator.
- Sure, you restored it, but why did you even grief it to begin with?
- Even then, it was clearly a joke with a malicious intent. There is no excuse.
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Video
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Post by Video on May 16, 2020 21:47:25 GMT
Own up to what you did wrong and don't try to blame your mistakes on someone else's mistakes. I thought I did own up to what I did wrong? I admit that what I did was wrong and I believe the punishment I received for it was fair. Regardless, I was indeed in the wrong. I know I should not have done it, but I still did it anyways.
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Post by Wild1145 on May 16, 2020 22:51:06 GMT
As an admin your supposed to be what ops look up to Surely if he was not an admin at the time that statement is a moot point... At which point why are we having this entire conversation. -- My personal 2 cent, it's a dick move, but if it wasn't against the rules at the time you did it, I don't see why you should be being sanctioned for it... Doesn't really seem like a fair thing to do, you can only enforce the rules that were in place at the time, regardless of how much of a dick move it is...
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Post by pug on May 16, 2020 23:20:40 GMT
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 16, 2020 23:22:57 GMT
Why is he being retroactively banned for a rule that didn't exist? Unban him, or you'll also have to ban anybody else who did such a thing.
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Post by elmon on May 16, 2020 23:28:11 GMT
Why is he being retroactively banned for a rule that didn't exist? Unban him, or you'll also have to ban anybody else who did such a thing. At the time he did this there were rules against griefing unclaimed bases.
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Zaid
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Post by Zaid on May 16, 2020 23:30:04 GMT
At the time he did this there were rules against griefing unclaimed bases. The screenshots I posted above are from last month, before the rule of griefing unclaimed bases was implemented
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Post by 97 on May 16, 2020 23:36:17 GMT
My personal 2 cent, it's a dick move, but if it wasn't against the rules at the time you did it, I don't see why you should be being sanctioned for it... Doesn't really seem like a fair thing to do, you can only enforce the rules that were in place at the time, regardless of how much of a dick move it is... Why is he being retroactively banned for a rule that didn't exist? Unban him, or you'll also have to ban anybody else who did such a thing. Simply Video did know he was doing something wrong with a malicious intent, that does not mean we should unban him because "oh since the rule wasn't there theres no reason". He did it on purpose and he should be held responsible for his actions.
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super
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Post by super on May 16, 2020 23:36:34 GMT
yeah but who tf asked
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Wild1145
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Post by Wild1145 on May 16, 2020 23:38:16 GMT
My personal 2 cent, it's a dick move, but if it wasn't against the rules at the time you did it, I don't see why you should be being sanctioned for it... Doesn't really seem like a fair thing to do, you can only enforce the rules that were in place at the time, regardless of how much of a dick move it is... Why is he being retroactively banned for a rule that didn't exist? Unban him, or you'll also have to ban anybody else who did such a thing. Simply Video did know he was doing something wrong with a malicious intent, that does not mean we should unban him because "oh since the rule wasn't there theres no reason". He did it on purpose and he should be held responsible for his actions. Not really how the rules work though is it? Rules are rules for a reason... You can't change them retrospectively because you think you're better than the rules... Enforcing rules that were not in effect at the time is just as bad if not worse than not enforcing the rules at all. You may as well go and ban 50% of the server for crimes they have not yet committed...
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 16, 2020 23:40:30 GMT
My personal 2 cent, it's a dick move, but if it wasn't against the rules at the time you did it, I don't see why you should be being sanctioned for it... Doesn't really seem like a fair thing to do, you can only enforce the rules that were in place at the time, regardless of how much of a dick move it is... Why is he being retroactively banned for a rule that didn't exist? Unban him, or you'll also have to ban anybody else who did such a thing. Simply Video did know he was doing something wrong with a malicious intent, that does not mean we should unban him because "oh since the rule wasn't there theres no reason". He did it on purpose and he should be held responsible for his actions. So if a player builds a house on purpose and an admin suspects malicious intent they can be banned? Because that's going by the logic you just put forward, if there is malicious intent somebody can be banned even if they didn't violate the rules. Might be the worst logic I have ever seen used on this forum in a long time and that is saying something.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 16, 2020 23:41:00 GMT
Why is he being retroactively banned for a rule that didn't exist? Unban him, or you'll also have to ban anybody else who did such a thing. At the time he did this there were rules against griefing unclaimed bases. Now this is "he said she said". Were there rules or weren't there?
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