fionn
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Post by fionn on May 15, 2020 5:50:45 GMT
I think we should be more lenient with the policy, disallow hard r, and allow n***a if it's clearly not used in a derogatory term.
It seems some higher ups are also failing to abide by this with no punishment so I feel if higher ups use it without punishment we should too.
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Post by super on May 15, 2020 5:51:45 GMT
i agree to this. i find no reason to stop allowing a term that is generally not used in a derogatory manner.
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Post by wilee999 on May 15, 2020 5:52:22 GMT
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 15, 2020 5:56:24 GMT
I think that if we start adding "exceptions" we're just going to go back to having random controversies over what is acceptable and what isn't. The point is that we're either not tolerating all of the offensive slurs, or we're tolerating all of them, and I think it's safer for this community if we go with the former. It's also worth noting that for the forum our rules go on top of the ProBoards terms of service which disallows them anyways.
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on May 15, 2020 6:03:56 GMT
no, this negates the whole entire point of the zero tolerance policy, and the harassment policy, Hard Object
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Post by 1cloud_ on May 15, 2020 6:04:22 GMT
i agree to this. i find no reason to stop allowing a term that is generally not used in a derogatory manner. Personally, I think it's a word that should only be used when quoting, oppressed groups have the right to reclaim words used against them to take the power out of the word, white people using it especially when slavery is still going on in some countries simply reverses progress towards living free of racism.
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Post by zeseryu on May 15, 2020 6:09:49 GMT
very conflicting, does anyone remember what the old policy was for no hard r?
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on May 15, 2020 6:10:05 GMT
i agree to this. i find no reason to stop allowing a term that is generally not used in a derogatory manner. Personally, I think it's a word that should only be used when quoting, oppressed groups have the right to reclaim words used against them to take the power out of the word, white people using it especially when slavery is still going on in some countries simply reverses progress towards living free of racism. in my opinon, its not just white people that shouldnt be saying it, i think that EVERYONE, regardless of race, shouldn't use it unless quoting someone or something, that is, at least from my beliefs, the best way to solve the issue of racisim
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Post by DragonSlayer2189 on May 15, 2020 6:10:47 GMT
very conflicting, does anyone remember what the old policy was for no hard r? which one, harrassment policy, or the (unless its a joke) one
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Post by elmon on May 15, 2020 6:21:52 GMT
Personally, I think it's a word that should only be used when quoting, oppressed groups have the right to reclaim words used against them to take the power out of the word, white people using it especially when slavery is still going on in some countries simply reverses progress towards living free of racism. in my opinon, its not just white people that shouldnt be saying it, i think that EVERYONE, regardless of race, shouldn't use it unless quoting someone or something, that is, at least from my beliefs, the best way to solve the issue of racisim It's true, it's not a word people should be using, because it was used to opressed previously. But black people have taken it and turned it into a term of endearment in order to empower themselves, so it will be used. Also, people not saying the n word isn't going to stop racism, people will have their prejudices either way. At the end of the day, this doesn't really relate to the context of the server and this thread. If we allow the 'nigga' form of it and ban the hard r, we allow freedom while blocking trolls from using it in a dergatory manner (which we can ban).
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 15, 2020 6:25:02 GMT
It's additionally worth noting that I don't believe the word "nigga" was ever banned by any policy ever put into place. I'm sure if you do a search on the forum, discord, or server logs you can find countless examples of people using that word for as far back as you can possibly go. The zero tolerance policy is in strict reference to slurs, in which case "lenience" flies in the face of it and would go against the premise of the policy, thus making this suggestion pretty redundant.
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Post by Hockey on May 15, 2020 6:27:17 GMT
I voted no, personally. I think we should be holding ourselves to higher standards than slurs.
That said, I think a compromise would be a zero tolerance policy on slurs used in a derogatory manner, though. More flexible, easier to enforce, but also leaves way more up to interpretation. I really don't think we should allow this type of language (because of all the problems it can lead to), but if we are going to allow this language, I think this clause should be part of the deal.
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Post by zeseryu on May 15, 2020 6:28:20 GMT
very conflicting, does anyone remember what the old policy was for no hard r? which one, harrassment policy, or the (unless its a joke) one the one under mark and windows? maybe. i honestly can remember if "nigga" was allowed under them
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 15, 2020 6:31:01 GMT
I voted no, personally. I think we should be holding ourselves to higher standards than slurs. I think a compromise would be a zero tolerance policy on slurs used in a derogatory manner, though. More flexible, easier to enforce, but also leaves way more up to interpretation. Unfortunately, that compromise would literally in effect revert it from a zero tolerance policy to exactly what we had before. The entire point of the zero tolerance policy was to prevent slurs such as the hard R from being used at all. This suggestion in particular is actually completely useless because the hard R is already disallowed, and the only other change mentioned is allowing "nigga" which wasn't disallowed in the first place.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on May 15, 2020 6:32:14 GMT
which one, harrassment policy, or the (unless its a joke) one the one under mark and windows? maybe. i honestly can remember if "nigga" was allowed under them It was never disallowed.
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