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Post by prince on Apr 28, 2020 17:31:08 GMT
make admin world public but dont allow them to build and shizznit
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Post by Darth on Apr 28, 2020 17:36:04 GMT
Object.
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Post by ???DaddyIndica on Apr 28, 2020 17:49:52 GMT
I object. That’s sort of the point of the name ‘adminworld’
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Post by prince on Apr 28, 2020 17:51:12 GMT
I object. That’s sort of the point of the name ‘adminworld’ then let's also block ops from entering "masterbuilderworld"
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Post by burger on Apr 28, 2020 17:51:25 GMT
Vouch, the admin world is basically a MBW for admins. You don't see the master builders locking up the MBW and besides most of the builds go on in there as the MBW is barely used. I dont really see any harm from allowing ops to see what the admins are up to.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 17:52:08 GMT
If we can make it so non-admins have no edit perms in AdminWorld, I don't see a problem with it. Perhaps disable WorldEdit perms for OPs in adminworld too so there's no WE bypassing.
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Post by elmon on Apr 28, 2020 17:52:39 GMT
I object. That’s sort of the point of the name ‘adminworld’ then let's also block ops from entering "masterbuilderworld" Master builder world is for master builders to build things to showcase to the player base. The same cannot be said for the adminworld.
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Post by miwo on Apr 28, 2020 17:52:46 GMT
I object. That’s sort of the point of the name ‘adminworld’ So MB World shouldn't be accessible to Ops? The point of AW is to give a place for Admins to build. There is no harm in giving viewing access to Ops. Vouch
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Post by burger on Apr 28, 2020 17:53:38 GMT
then let's also block ops from entering "masterbuilderworld" Master builder world is for master builders to build things to showcase to the player base. The same cannot be said for the adminworld. Then what exactly goes on in the aw? All I see is admins being creative and building why should we hide that from our community?
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Post by miwo on Apr 28, 2020 17:54:52 GMT
then let's also block ops from entering "masterbuilderworld" Master builder world is for master builders to build things to showcase to the player base. The same cannot be said for the adminworld. When did you her to determine what the MB World is? Even if I grant you your point, then I would ask: what's the point of AW?
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Post by fionn on Apr 28, 2020 17:58:57 GMT
i'll vouch
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 28, 2020 17:59:28 GMT
I have never understood why admins require their own entire world to cave away from the normal peasants on the server and don't even want them to be able to view the world. At the very least, it should be publicly viewable for players. The master builder world and admin world comparison is a false equivalence because the master builder world serves a creative function on the server which we need, the admin world is not necessary by any means other than to incentivize people to apply for admin for the special building access, which in itself is a problem that we should addressing, we shouldn't have to have an admin world.
If things made a bit more sense, we would just have the master builder world instead of the admin world, and admins would have to apply for the master builder role to receive access to it just like a player would, and if they didn't qualify for that role then they'd have no problem building in the worlds that players already have access to anyways. Creativity should be separated from administration, going off and building isn't part of administration.
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Post by elmon on Apr 28, 2020 17:59:33 GMT
Master builder world is for master builders to build things to showcase to the player base. The same cannot be said for the adminworld. When did you her to determine what the MB World is? Even if I grant you your point, then I would ask: what's the point of AW? I've seen some builds in adminworld that idk if they should be publicly visible.
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Post by burger on Apr 28, 2020 18:05:37 GMT
I have never understood why admins require their own entire world to cave away from the normal peasants on the server and don't even want them to be able to view the world. At the very least, it should be publicly viewable for players. The master builder world and admin world comparison is a false equivalence because the master builder world serves a creative function on the server which we need, the admin world is not necessary by any means other than to incentivize people to apply for admin for the special building access, which in itself is a problem that we should addressing, we shouldn't have to have an admin world. If things made a bit more sense, we would just have the master builder world instead of the admin world, and admins would have to apply for the master builder role to receive access to it just like a player would, and if they didn't qualify for that role then they'd have no problem building in the worlds that players already have access to anyways. Creativity should be separated from administration, going off and building isn't part of administration. The way I see it, it's just a fun little thing for admins to take a breather and do stuff on their own. I think what people keep forgetting is that admins on TF aren't paid, and this isn't a formal job. It isn't that big of a deal. In conclusion: It's not that deep bro If admins need a breather then the great outdoors are calling.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 28, 2020 18:12:52 GMT
I have never understood why admins require their own entire world to cave away from the normal peasants on the server and don't even want them to be able to view the world. At the very least, it should be publicly viewable for players. The master builder world and admin world comparison is a false equivalence because the master builder world serves a creative function on the server which we need, the admin world is not necessary by any means other than to incentivize people to apply for admin for the special building access, which in itself is a problem that we should addressing, we shouldn't have to have an admin world. If things made a bit more sense, we would just have the master builder world instead of the admin world, and admins would have to apply for the master builder role to receive access to it just like a player would, and if they didn't qualify for that role then they'd have no problem building in the worlds that players already have access to anyways. Creativity should be separated from administration, going off and building isn't part of administration. The way I see it, it's just a fun little thing for admins to take a breather and do stuff on their own. I think what people keep forgetting is that admins on TF aren't paid, and this isn't a formal job. It isn't that big of a deal. In conclusion: It's not that deep bro Why aren't they able to build on the normal maps? We have protected plots, we have the normal map, if it works for the players why wouldn't it work for the admins that aren't master builders?
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