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Post by Telesphoreo on Apr 22, 2020 6:06:17 GMT
The SMP server has been moved to my server to reduce lag on the free op server and allows for more RAM to be dedicated to the SMP server. IP's you can use to connect: smp.totalfreedom.me, play.telesphoreo.me Netdata is available at: telesphoreo.me:19999
I've spent the last two days removing a significant portion of the bloat from the server, switching everything over to MariaDB, and optimizing server performance. Over the weekend, I'm going to redo the entire permissions since they're an absolute mess and staff basically just have every permission node, which isn't ideal. Once a stable permission system is complete, it will be easy to implement voting rewards onto the SMP server. Thanks to Seth, the SMP bot has been rewritten for Pterodactyl, so everything with Discord is the same. The one major difference is that the servers are no longer bungee'd together, so you can no longer access the SMP server via /server smp in game anymore (and vice versa for free op). Thanks
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 22, 2020 6:16:38 GMT
It seems weird to me that since we set up everything in a way that SMP and free op are both Total Freedom servers (similar to ages ago in like 2011 when there was a normal server and a hell server, both official) that now SMP as an official server is just going to be hosted unofficially on some server not controlled by the owner, and even without the bungee connection. Is this supposed to be a temporary arrangement?
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Post by Telesphoreo on Apr 22, 2020 6:17:23 GMT
It seems weird to me that since we set up everything in a way that SMP and free op are both Total Freedom servers (similar to ages ago in like 2011 when there was a normal server and a hell server, both official) that now SMP as an official server is just going to be hosted unofficially on some server not controlled by the owner, and even without the bungee connection. Is this supposed to be a temporary arrangement? seth has full access to the server?
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 22, 2020 6:20:50 GMT
It seems weird to me that since we set up everything in a way that SMP and free op are both Total Freedom servers (similar to ages ago in like 2011 when there was a normal server and a hell server, both official) that now SMP as an official server is just going to be hosted unofficially on some server not controlled by the owner, and even without the bungee connection. Is this supposed to be a temporary arrangement? seth has full access to the server? Access is not what I'm talking about, the free op server is owned by him, it's unprecedented to my knowledge of an admin hosting an official server on their own server. That in addition to the fact that the bungee connection was removed.
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Post by Telesphoreo on Apr 22, 2020 6:23:52 GMT
seth has full access to the server? Access is not what I'm talking about, the free op server is owned by him, it's unprecedented to my knowledge of an admin hosting an official server on their own server. That in addition to the fact that the bungee connection was removed. it wasn't my decision to remove bungee. if you read the first sentence, you would know that it was due to lag. many admins can confirm that the free op was lagging significantly due to the smp server. since you haven't been on the server in five or six years, you wouldn't know. also, fionn is the owner / manager and has all the perms and so does seth. also, is there a problem with that? it's not like im gonna go rogue and destroy stuff,,, literally that's on my server?? that doesn't make sense.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 22, 2020 6:44:04 GMT
Access is not what I'm talking about, the free op server is owned by him, it's unprecedented to my knowledge of an admin hosting an official server on their own server. That in addition to the fact that the bungee connection was removed. it wasn't my decision to remove bungee. if you read the first sentence, you would know that it was due to lag. many admins can confirm that the free op was lagging significantly due to the smp server. since you haven't been on the server in five or six years, you wouldn't know. also, fionn is the owner / manager and has all the perms and so does seth. also, is there a problem with that? it's not like im gonna go rogue and destroy stuff,,, literally that's on my server?? that doesn't make sense. That's great that I wouldn't know according to you, but pretty sure thousands of servers have been capable of using Bungee without the server "lagging significantly", not sure how we're under such special circumstances where just using it causes lag, unless of course the server setup is awful (gee, it's not like server stability is a problem regardless, there totally haven't been several threads posted about that). My concern isn't a personal one, it's more that there is precedent that the owner is the one who owns the servers and pays the bills, if that's no longer the case and an official server is being offloaded onto another person, then that in itself is concerning just by itself. Basically, it comes down to the fact that if you're the one who owns the server, should you not have the "Server Owner" rank on here as it is an official TF server?
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Post by Telesphoreo on Apr 22, 2020 6:48:29 GMT
it wasn't my decision to remove bungee. if you read the first sentence, you would know that it was due to lag. many admins can confirm that the free op was lagging significantly due to the smp server. since you haven't been on the server in five or six years, you wouldn't know. also, fionn is the owner / manager and has all the perms and so does seth. also, is there a problem with that? it's not like im gonna go rogue and destroy stuff,,, literally that's on my server?? that doesn't make sense. That's great that I wouldn't know according to you, but pretty sure thousands of servers have been capable of using Bungee without the server "lagging significantly", not sure how we're under such special circumstances where just using it causes lag, unless of course the server setup is awful (gee, it's not like server stability is a problem regardless, there totally haven't been several threads posted about that). My concern isn't a personal one, it's more that there is precedent that the owner is the one who owns the servers and pays the bills, if that's no longer the case and an official server is being offloaded onto another person, then that in itself is concerning just by itself. Basically, it comes down to the fact that if you're the one who owns the server, should you not have the "Server Owner" rank on here as it is an official TF server? i don't want the server owner rank
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 22, 2020 7:06:36 GMT
That's great that I wouldn't know according to you, but pretty sure thousands of servers have been capable of using Bungee without the server "lagging significantly", not sure how we're under such special circumstances where just using it causes lag, unless of course the server setup is awful (gee, it's not like server stability is a problem regardless, there totally haven't been several threads posted about that). My concern isn't a personal one, it's more that there is precedent that the owner is the one who owns the servers and pays the bills, if that's no longer the case and an official server is being offloaded onto another person, then that in itself is concerning just by itself. Basically, it comes down to the fact that if you're the one who owns the server, should you not have the "Server Owner" rank on here as it is an official TF server? i don't want the server owner rank Regardless, if it's your server, then you are effectively the server owner above Seth, and that's just a precedent that we're setting with this.
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Post by Fleek on Apr 22, 2020 7:31:58 GMT
That's great that I wouldn't know according to you, but pretty sure thousands of servers have been capable of using Bungee without the server "lagging significantly", not sure how we're under such special circumstances where just using it causes lag, unless of course the server setup is awful (gee, it's not like server stability is a problem regardless, there totally haven't been several threads posted about that). The vps can't handle 2 servers at once hence the lag.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2020 7:36:19 GMT
It's just there to free ram for now. I also removed bungee due to it's inability to do certain things that I want it to. Doesn't really matter who's hosting it, as long as I have full access to it. Should any abuse go on with packs hosting SMP I'll pull the subdomain away from it and put it back on the normal dedi.
The server was sitting at an average 1gb free with SMP and TF running at the same time.
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Post by Polaris Seltzeris on Apr 22, 2020 7:37:31 GMT
It's just there to free ram for now. I also removed bungee due to it's inability to do certain things that I want it to. Doesn't really matter who's hosting it, as long as I have full access to it. Should any abuse go on with packs hosting SMP I'll pull the subdomain away from it and put it back on the normal dedi. The server was sitting at an average 1gb free with SMP and TF running at the same time. Thanks for answering, all I wanted to know was if it was a permanent or temporary arrangement.
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